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  • Pan/Crop track is drifting

    Posted by Loralyn Staples on January 15, 2024 at 2:46 pm

    I currently use Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 14. (I have so many custom plugins, I don’t dare upgrade)

    I make tutorials that require a simple picture in picture effect.

    I achieve this by using track motion to move it to the upper corner, and pan/crop to zoom in. I have done this for years. But lately, the cropped track is drifting little by little out of the center frame.

    I have searched and searched for an answer. I do not see ANY keyframes. (I don’t use them)

    I created a new track and deleted the old track, but the problem replicates to the new track.

    The problem seems to be triggered by the way I am cropping.

    I’m sure I am making a rookie/beginner mistake, but can anyone even point me in the right direction?

    Kelly Griffin replied 4 months, 4 weeks ago 3 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Hector Vera

    January 15, 2024 at 3:35 pm

    Yeah it seems to be a glitch in the system. Rather something on your keyboard or mouse could be causing it… if thats the case, I suggest you test it with other keyboard and mouses to see if it works better this way. If thats not the issue, try uninstalling the whole app and reinstalling it afterwards with everything refreshly installed to see if the drifting does not persist in the pan/crop tool. Hopefully you will find a way around to fix this too, that can be very annoying and I know since I use Pan/Crop Tools a lot in my videos and experienced Joy-con drifting too.

  • Kelly Griffin

    January 15, 2024 at 7:04 pm

    Loralyn… what you describe sounds suspiciously like you DO (“might”) have a keyframe in your Track Motion timeline after all. At time 0:00 everything’s at 0x-0y-0z, and if you made your position with the picture-in-picture anywhere else but at 0:00, the track motion will definitely want to be moving from the 0-0-0 position at 0:00 to wherever you positioned the picture-in-picture on your master timeline, unless your keyframe type at 0-0-0 is set to “Hold”.

    Pardon if I just stated a big “DUH” here, but I’ve never heard of something drifting around with no keyframes.

    –Kelly

  • Loralyn Staples

    January 15, 2024 at 8:52 pm

    Thank you, Kelly. (No, I would not be offended if I got a big “DUH”…no worries)

    If I had a keyframe by accident, you’d think that deleting that track and creating a new one….and in fact, creating a whole new project, would get rid of the keyframe….unless I’m creating one just by doing the track motion and then the cropping.

    If you happen to be interested in consulting privately with me for a fee (is that allowed here?) let me know.

    Otherwise, I’m attaching a couple pics of what I think is the relevant screenshot, if I could impose on you a bit more. My crop settings are not “0”.

  • Kelly Griffin

    January 15, 2024 at 9:45 pm

    Loralyn, I’m not here to make any money off my fellow Veggies 😉

    I think I’m misunderstanding the screen captures you posted… I don’t see any reference to the Track Motion part of the issue, unless its position at 0:00 is where it should be for all instances (?)

    Just to rule out more “duh” thinking, I don’t know if this is contributing to it, but if I were in your shoes I would adjust the crop first on the raw clip, then go on the project timeline to where the picture-in-picture needs to be and use Track Motion to position it. That will introduce a keyframe at that place in the timeline. Then, I would copy that keyframe, go to 0:00 and paste it there as well, so that both positions have the same position coordinates. And, make they keyframe type “Hold” for both. Or, you can simply make both positions “Holds” as well (instead of copy/pasting one to the other).

  • Loralyn Staples

    January 16, 2024 at 4:41 am

    Hi Kelly,

    Thanks for the reply. I value your time and expertise.

    If I may just ask some clarifying questions:

    So I will crop FIRST. Is it okay if I crop on the timeline, at the end of the clip, where that little “crop” icon is? Is that cropping the raw file?

    I do understand what you mean by “hold”. I found that.

    And then, may I just ask where am I looking for the “0:00” that you are referring to? I’ll attach a couple pics with numbers, and you can tell me which number is where I’m looking for the 0:00. I am guessing it is NUMBER 2.

    This is embarrassing. I have used Vegas for 10 years, but my needs have been so basic, I’ve never really dug too deep into the features….and have always been able to hire people to help me when I needed to.

    See attached.

    THANK YOU!

    Weird update: I started thinking my camera was faulty, and was doing a super slow auto-zoom. Camera is fine, but I did discover that the actual RAW VIDEO is plagued with a super slow zoom in the last 8 minutes. So I think something weird happened on the CAMERA end. (Sony FDR AX33) I thought I should probably mention that.)

  • Loralyn Staples

    January 16, 2024 at 4:42 am

    Thank you for your reply, Hector. I’m pestering Kelly for information. Yes, it completely HALTS my progress on video production when something like this happens.

  • Kelly Griffin

    January 16, 2024 at 5:32 pm

    Hey Loralyn, so that we don’t load up users’ notifications, feel free to email me, and you’re certainly welcome to call me if that’s easier.

    kelly@kgcreative.biz

    503-969-5311

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