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  • PAL to NTSC, fcp why not?

    Posted by George Parker on June 27, 2007 at 1:49 pm

    cp 5.1.4

    I’m sure there’s a very good and logical reason, but I just don’t see it.

    I’ve been experimenting with converting 1080i50 to 1080i60 with compressor, Mpeg Stream, Nattress, Atlantis (actually, this was PAL DV for Atlantis). Other than if you just have to have some kind of pulldown, I think it’s much, much cleaner just to let fcp do it. So, I must be missing something here. What you get, of course, is 5 distinct frames with number 6 being a repeat of 5. For me, the slight studder in the movement is totally acceptable especially when considering the trade off in sharpness to the softness that you get to varying degrees with any of the pulldown conversions. The original PAL clip (quicktime) is 00:04:01:15. Once converted to NTSC, fcp or using the Nattress converter plugin the length becomes 00:04:01:18. Don’t quite get those extra 3 frames. Seems like it would be either more or none.

    So, is this just a personal preference thing or what?

    geefuel

    George Parker replied 18 years, 10 months ago 3 Members · 3 Replies
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  • Russell Lasson

    June 27, 2007 at 3:55 pm

    [geefuel] “For me, the slight studder in the movement is totally acceptable”

    That’s where many people don’t like how FCP does frame conversions. I don’t like duplicated frames personally. I’ve also seen them become a much bigger problem when going to DVD. That’s why I prefer to convert 24 or 25 to 29.97 using Nattress. I don’t do a lot of 25 to 29.97, but I deal with 24 a lot.

    -Russ

  • George Parker

    June 27, 2007 at 5:38 pm

    For what I’m looking at (two guys playing guitars and singing on stage) the extra frame hold seems a fairly small price to pay to retain the quality of the image. Maybe, I’m doing something wrong when I do these other conversions. I’m not saying those other conversions, including Nattress, look bad. But, there’s a trade off. And, I’m trying to decide myself what’s more offensive. This is not for broadcast, per se, but for video playback in a store.

    gee

  • David Jahns

    June 27, 2007 at 5:49 pm

    I’ll agree with Russell – dupe frames are lame, and even FCP6’s “Open Timeline” is only for offline only, in my opinion – especially for interlaced formats. If doing anything for broadcast, proper pulldown is essential.

    I’ve been quite happy with Nattress conversion software – PAL to NTSC and vice-versa. The interface & workflow is a little clunky, but the results are great.

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