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  • P2 workflow issues

    Posted by Steinar Bjørlykke on October 13, 2006 at 7:46 am

    This is more related to Avid and Final Cut Pro, but is still P2 related. I hope some of you can give me some insight.
    We are shooting a drama series in HDCAM and P2 DVCPRO HD. We use the AG-HVX200 camera for those hard to reach places, inside cars and so on. The HDCAM material is offlined to DV, and the DVCPRO HD material is mixed with this DV material on the timeline on the Avid Xpress Pro offline editor. So far so good.
    We export an AAF from the Avid thru Automatic Duck to Final Cut Pro for onlining. The HDCAM material is onlined in normal fashion, but relinking the P2 material gives us some problems. Automatick Duck doesn’t let us transfer DVCPRO HD material to the FinalCut as it does with DVCPRO and DVCPRO 50.
    Relinking to the original files backed up from cards, requires us to manually ingest the material based on the cliplist with the 5.1.2 P2 import module. When relinking the audio is not automatically included, and must be onlined one track at a time. This is very timeconsuming and boring.

    I wish there was a way for Final Cut to automatically invoke the P2 import module for those clips that originates from P2, either by manual selection or by using the camera metadata.

    One thought is to make HDCAM dubs of all our P2 material, but I don’t fancy two rough compressions on the material.
    Any other thoughts?

    Noah Kadner replied 19 years, 10 months ago 4 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Uli Plank

    October 13, 2006 at 7:51 am

    If you can’t avoid offlining at all, I don’t see a simple solution. While the new P2 interface in FCP 5.2.1 is very well laid out, it can’t do automatically what you desire.

    Regards,

    Uli

    Author of “DVDs gestalten und produzieren”, a book on professional DVD-authoring in German.

  • Steinar Bjørlykke

    October 13, 2006 at 8:15 am

    Yes. My best bet is really to do the offlining with Final Cut instead. But my editor isn’t really FinalCut savvy, and he’s an old man, and I don’t want to bug him to much…

  • Gunleik Groven

    October 13, 2006 at 12:42 pm

    Are you going uncompressed for the online?

    I would have captured everything as DVCPRO HD in FCP and used that as my offline format.
    Doesn’t really solve the FCP/AVID issue, though, but gives a much easier worlflow.

    Gunleik Groven

  • Noah Kadner

    October 13, 2006 at 4:32 pm

    Considering the workflow is more HDCAM based than DVCPROHD I’d recommend simply dubbing your P2 footage to HDCAM. Then you can avoid the hassle of two different online sources. Either way you’ll need to cross the line from P2 to HDCAM and it’s going to be a lot easier up front as a straight dub than at the end as an online issue where timecodes are critical.

    Noah

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