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  • P2 to MiniDV for Offline

    Posted by Ron James on February 23, 2006 at 3:20 am

    Hi, sorry if this has been asked before, but I DID do some searching and couldn’t come up with any posts regarding this…

    Is it possible to dump your HD content from a P2 card to a mini-dv tape *in-camera* for offlining purposes??? Reason I ask is, I was at a trade show and could’ve sworn the guy said this could be done. Maybe it was my imagination, though?

    David Battistella replied 20 years, 2 months ago 5 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Tom Maloney

    February 23, 2006 at 12:55 pm

    Just read an article in Event Magazine that give you step by step how to

    Later
    Tom

  • Harold Ferguson

    February 23, 2006 at 1:13 pm

    It will tell you how in the manual.
    Mule Ferguson

  • David Battistella

    February 23, 2006 at 4:03 pm

    I have a question.

    If you duno to the tape can you reconnect the material from the tape to the P2 Cards?

    David

    Peace and Love 🙂

  • Harold Ferguson

    February 23, 2006 at 6:17 pm

    I have only dumped from the P2 too tape. Keep in mind If its shot in HD it converts the footage to DVC Pro DV. I don’t belive it will transfer back to the P2.

    Mule Ferguson

  • David Battistella

    February 23, 2006 at 9:03 pm

    Reel to Reel,

    Yes. You can put the footage to DV tape from the P2 card. This does not mean that you can capture the DV footage and cut it SD and then mathc that DV footage back to the source material on the P2 card, even after you transfer the contents to a hard drive and/or a DVD.

    I am not absolutely certain if there is Metadata transfered from teh P2 to the DV tape for this purpose. But the big question if why offline in DV. You can cut HD natively at or near the same data rate (24p is about 5.5mb/sec compared to DV 3.8mb/sec).

    You might want to copy all of your P2 files to the DV tape as a backup, but means that you would be downconverting all of your material to DV codec (sort of defeats the purpose.

    Forr offline you could also copy all of your P2 files to a hard drive and then set up a compressor preset to convert it all to DV to edit an SD version.

    David

    Peace and Love 🙂

  • Jeremy Garchow

    February 24, 2006 at 9:59 pm

    [David Battistella] “If you duno to the tape can you reconnect the material from the tape to the P2 Cards?”

    David, how exactly do you duno to the tape? 😉 Sorry, just be a jackdonkey today.

    This is an interesting point, and something I never really thought of before. How would that even work? It seems you would have to manually match each clip. If you digitized from tape, you name the clips, put a reel number, and have timecode.

    Does P2 work this way as well? If I am ready to online an FCP project, can I run the project through media manger and reconnect to the P2 files? Seems highly improbable unless there’s way to set the reel number or timecode on the HVX, and even then the clips are not going to be named the same as you digitized.

    Why would anyone want to do an offline when the data rate of DVCPRo HD is so low anyway? I don’t know, but I’m sure people will find their reasons. Offline on a laptop onsite and being able to monitor on an NTSC monitor comes to mind.

    How long is it until we see the P2 version of the 1200A? Or better yet…how long until we can stick a 500GB hard drive into the front of the deck instead of tape? We can then use normal video connection standards like SDI or HD-SDI for uncompressed captures.

    The possibilities seem endless.

    Jeremy

  • David Battistella

    February 25, 2006 at 3:42 am

    I would rather have Panny come up with a way to make DVtape a Data backup solution.

    That would be awesome. Let me give you a scenario.

    As the P2 cards are being recorded the full one is transfering to the DV deck ( as a tape data drive)

    As the tapes fill up you can just add a new tape and the P2 cards are smart enough to offload and reformat even as the other card is being recorded. (this way having two P2 cards is a really attractive idea, even at the high price) and we still use inexpensive tape as a backup.

    Wait! There is more.

    What if we could data transfer the DV (data) tape to anything we want via firewire. This means that if I brought a panny DV deck into the field I could be creating backups or “client masters” on the fly. Then my tapes just go on the shelf.

    How about taking that a step further now. We don’t need to hand anything but a DV data master to a network. They can upload that to their server and encode to whatever data stream (probably mpeg 2) that they want.

    Wait.

    All of the metadata that is recodered to the P2 cards gets carried over to even the final edits in the program, then networks can extract that data for searchaable archive footage database.

    What else you ask? I knew you’d ask that.

    The HVX200a comes with 1/3 inch interchangable lens mount giving users more creative choice besides a not wide enough, not tight enough zoom lens. No mini 35 adapters to worry about. Offer a custom order with F mount or cannon mounts so you can really use those SLR lenses you invested in.

    Wow! That was fun!

    Now back to life and the hard reality that the people making the technology don’t really let the people who use it do a lot of the inventing.

    🙂

    David

    Peace and Love 🙂

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