P2 storage capabilities – GARY ADCOCK!

[Shane Ross]

Sorry for the “bat signal” Gary but I don’t have your e-mail address and you don’t have it in your profile either. I know you are a busy busy man.

Can you give me a more up to date link or information as to the storage capabilities of the P2 card? The DVX User site lists it as 10 min for 720p24 and I know it is 20 min.

https://www.p2info.net/articles/misc/p2cardcaps.php
https://www.dvxuser.com/articles/P2/

Thanks man!

Shane Ross
Alokut Productions
http://www.lfhd.net

[Steve Eisen]

gary@chifcpug.com

Steve Eisen
Eisen Video Productions
Director-At-Large
Chicago Final Cut Pro Users Group

[Shane Ross]

Thank you.

And next time I’ll post this in the P2 forum. I didn’t notice there was one, as I pretty much just hang out here.

Shane Ross
Alokut Productions
http://www.lfhd.net

[Steve Eisen]

Shane,

I you refering to the 4GB or 8GB card?

Steve Eisen
Eisen Video Productions
Director-At-Large
Chicago Final Cut Pro Users Group

[Shane Ross]

I was messed in the head. I was thinking of the capacity of the 8GB cards and referring that info to the 4Gb cards. Due to the fact that we were expecting to get the 8GB cards so I had that info in my head, but instead of the two 8GB cards, we got five 4GB cards so I attributed the storage capacity to them.

Me wires got crossed.

Shane Ross
Alokut Productions
http://www.lfhd.net

[Steve Eisen]

Hopefully, Focus Enhancements can make there promise for their FS-100 at NAB. That will force the P2 cards to both improve their capacities and reduction in price.

Steve Eisen
Eisen Video Productions
Director-At-Large
Chicago Final Cut Pro Users Group

[Peter McAuley]

I just about died the other day to discover that the 8 gig P2 card was $2300.00. I think alot of wasteful video shooters better get used to the disciplined way of shooting like film. In my opinion this is an unuasable format just because of the price of the cards. Who in their right minds is going to go out on a shoot with $ 20,000 worth of cards or have to dump them off every ten minutes to something else just so they can continue to keep shooting.”Hold that thought Mr. CEO, I’ll be back in ten to get the second part of your sentence”. Even if they cut the price in half it’s still a joke. Yes you can record to dv, but what’s the point of having the camera in the first place. For that kind of dough why not just rent a varicam for the day.

Cheers

Peter McAuley
Axyz Edit
Toronto
G5 dual 2.0
4 gigs ram
10.4.3
FCP 5.03
QT 7.03
Kona 2 v1.1.4 with K Box
4 X 250 gig external F800 Lacie firewire drive
2 X 23″ Apple cinema display

[Shane Ross]

Well, as it has been explained to me, you can’t think of the P2 cards as video tapes in terms of “expendibles.” You have to think of them as equipment purchase…and know that your expendible budget now decreases. You can still bill them as expendibles, therefore still pay them off.

And you don’t stop at 10 min. Once one card fills up, the camera automatically switches to the next card and continues recording. There are two slots, therefore you can get 20 min at a time. A little less than with a tape, which you’d still have to ask your interviewee to hold the thought as you change tapes.

And the cameras were supposed to ship with 8GB cards, but at the time we got them, they only had the 4 GB available, so they gave us five for each camera. This way you pause long enough to swap out cards while an assistant uploads the info onto hard drives.

Hard drives are now expendibles.

Shane Ross
Alokut Productions
http://www.lfhd.net

[Peter McAuley]

So what you’re saying is that every time you go out on location to shoot more than say 40 minutes worth of material you have to drag along an assistant and a computer and hard drives to copy the stuff over. Doesn’t make sense to me. I wouldn’t exactly put a $2300 card in the expendables department, Hell I can shoot 1000 ft of 35mm and get it transfered too for less than $2300. But heck that’s just my opinion.

Peter McAuley
Axyz Edit
Toronto
G5 dual 2.0
4 gigs ram
10.4.3
FCP 5.03
QT 7.03
Kona 2 v1.1.4 with K Box
4 X 250 gig external F800 Lacie firewire drive
2 X 23″ Apple cinema display

[gary adcock]

[Shane Ross] “Sorry for the “bat signal””

“YES, COMMISSIONER Gordon” ( sorry, no leotard)

[Shane Ross] “an you give me a more up to date link or information as to the storage capabilities of the P2 card? The DVX User site lists it as 10 min for 720p24 and I know it is 20 min.”

the 4gig cards are 10m min.
the 8gig cards are 20 min.

Shot with a Firestore for 20min last night at the MONSTER Macworld FCP meeting. ( Line to get in was around the Block to see Walter Murch.

Gary Adcock
Studio37
HD and Film Consultation
Chicago, IL USA