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P2 Network copying…permissions errors.
Ok,
We have had a problem copying P2 data since we started using them–I am finally fed-up trying to work around it…so I need your help.
I am not sure if it is a Mac OS issue or a P2 issue, but I feel I will most likely find the answer here.
SCENARIO:
— We have no issues copying our P2 data from the P2 card to a Mac Laptop when the card is inserted in the PCMCIA slot on the laptop.— Furthermore…..That data can be copied from the P2 card onto the Startup hard drive in the laptop or to a firewire or USB drive connected directly to the laptop.
— That data can then be carried on an external hard drive and used or copied to other systems in our shop with no issues.
ISSUE: I can not…at any time…successfully copy a P2 data folder from (any machine to any machine) on our in house (gigabit) network.
I ALWAYS get some form of permissions error and the transfer ceases.
-Mac to Mac directly.
-Mac to PC directly.
-Mac to XServe directly.
Tried all combinations..nothing works…No network file transfers of P2 data have EVER been successfully conducted in our shop.
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I am tired of “sneakernetting” our data around on portable external drives. The copy times alone for 20-30 card image shoots are making me nutz!Am I missing something embarrassingly simple and laughable here? Or are other people silently suffering this same issue?
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I understand that due to the P2 data/file structure, some folders are automatically locked…and the permissions are set “strangely”. I know this affects the issue. I have tried manually adjusting permissions on the P2 folders..but it just does not seem to work…and it is exceedingly labor intensive. (Too many folders/files…too many layers deep….)
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How do we work around this?
We have a “nearline” (not quite online) RAID-5 hooked to one of our network servers where projects sit (data-protected) in limbo between completion/revision and archive. (This preserves valuable “online” RAID space for today’s/this week’s projects.)
I have not been able to use this workflow for any project that has P2 footage…for the aforementioned reasons (it won’t copy over the network.) I am wasting valuable suite time backing up directly to tape on a spare single tape drive hooked directly to the edit system. (Suite is tied up for hours…even overnight…archiving to tape.) We have a wonderful tape library hooked to the server…I can’t make efficient use of it if the data is not on the server. And again…I have yet to be able to copy P2 data to the server over the network……
—–How do I successfully copy P2 data (Card/folder images) over a network?
Thanks,
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I had this problem too and SOLVED IT! I was doing the same thing you did, Laptop to my Mac Tower and had to go to firewire drive and move that one around. The problem was the UID number both machines. I won’t explain it because it will take to long but both machines were set to UID 501 which caused the conflict. Here is the rub, you can not simply change the machines UID number.
Here is how I got around the UID problem. Both machines were set to the Admins since they were both my machines. I created a second user account on my Laptop that I would log in to when I transfered from the P2 card to the hard drive. This caused the new user account to have a new UID number of 502 which did not conflict with duplicate 501 UIDs. There is something in P2 files like locked files that might cause the problem. The computers seem to think they are the same machine with the same UID # and I even had the same User and Passwords on both machines. (changing those will not fix your UID or problem so don’t bother)
So create a new user account on your laptop with a new user name and password and that should solve your problem. Your Tower will be UID 501 and your laptop will be UID 502 with new user account. When you log in as Admin again it will be 501.
-Lars
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Ok, that was it, you were dead on correct.
Thanks.How annoying though. I had all of the machines in our shop set to the same login/password for simplicity.
(FYI to others…upon further research…..I learned that is NOT a good thing to do….there are many problems that can pop up regardless of OS when using the same login/password/single-account for all networked machines.)I edit video. I post sometimes.
I fix things. I eat marshmallows.
I play drums. I drink scotch.
I like TV.Done typing now.
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I think many studios are set up that way, I know mine is too. In the OS 9 days there was no problem with that and UID numbers. They really should make a way for you to set up your own UID number if Apple could do that.
-Lars
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After playing with setting unique ID numbers on each machine…I realized that it wasn’t that difficult to set up the rest of the network “properly” with the OSX server. Each machine now logs into directory services (LADP) and obtains a list of users/UID’s etc. and all is good.
Thanks again…I implemented a final solution that took us beyond your fix….but it was your FIX that jarred me into realizing that as we had grown, I had not taken the time to set up our internal network properly. (We had been using an OSX server…but simply had not taken advantage of full workgroup features.)
-C
I edit video. I post sometimes.
I fix things. I eat marshmallows.
I play drums. I drink scotch.
I like TV.Done typing now.
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Thank you guys. Just ran into the same problem myself sharing P2 between my PowerBook and MB Pro. I could have been dicking around for days trying to sort it myself…I love Creative Cow!!!
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I am the admin on my two laptops with the same Username and password and I’m having this same problem copying P2 across ethernet from the PCMCIA slot on my PowerBook G4 to an external eSATA array attached to my MacBook Pro.
After reading this thread I tried logging in on the PowerBook using my wifes account. Still can’t get it to work.
I can copy a P2 Card across to the Drop Box in the Public Folder of my account on the MacBook Pro but not to the external drive. ‘You do not have sufficient privileges…’
I’m getting very frustrated with that message!!
Any insights would be greatly appreciated.
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