P2 & HD tape size, transfer time?

[Shane Ross]

[peter hitchcock] “How many minutes on a 16 gig P2 card?”

What format? 1080? 720? 24pn? A lot of factors to consider…

[peter hitchcock] “How many minutes on on a HD tape?”

40 min. It shoots 720p at 59.94, but it you choose the 24p setting, FCP will remove the pulldown when it captures.

[peter hitchcock] “How long does it take to transfer a P2 16 gig card to a hard drive to a Mac book pro or a G5?”

In my experience…a gig a minute. 16GB would then take 16 min…maybe a min or two more…

[peter hitchcock] “What is the megabyte size per minute for DVCPRO HD and Pro Rez 422?”

AGAIN…what format are we talking about here? 720P? 1080p? DVCPRO HD 720p60 is 12MB/s….ProRes 422 is 28MB/s, a little over double the space. But if you shoot 720p24…then you are at 6MB/s…4.5 times less data rate.

[peter hitchcock] “Also what should I be delivering the media on for various clients?”

What do they want? That is up to them.

[peter hitchcock] “What formats/codecs are being used on network TV?”

HDCAM….D5…HDCAM SR. 720p59.94 for some, 1080p 23.98 for others. Depends on the network.

[peter hitchcock] “How long does it take to burn 23 mins? ( I think that’s maximum right now) to a blue ray disc?”

NO clue…haven’t done it.

Shane

Littlefrog Post
http://www.lfhd.net

[Pete Sake]

Thanks Shane, yes your right there is lots of factors. I would be shooting at 720p 29.97 frames though I might shoot at 24 f. Not sure about shooting less @ 24 frames I’m not sure if I like the look.

Tne Panasonic cameras dont do 1080p So I think I have to go 720p with Panasonic. Unless you know of a solution for up rezing.

What media are Broadcasters excepting HD?

Just read on a site using Toast 8 Blue Ray 45 gig takes 90 mins to burn but they didnt say what CP
I’m on a Betacam system right now so Im trying to figure out whats best for the next 10 years.
Peter

[Shane Ross]

[Peter hitchcock] “Tne Panasonic cameras dont do 1080p So I think I have to go 720p with Panasonic.”

Not true. The HVX-200 shoots 1080p. All the Panasonic P2 cameras shoot 1080p. I suspect that even the tape based ones MIGHT (might…I am not a camera operator) as the DVCPRO HD decks have a 1080p option…suggesting that format is available on tape.

[Peter hitchcock] “Unless you know of a solution for up rezing.”

KONA 3. I cross convert my 720p to 1080p all the time with the Kona 3.

[Peter hitchcock] “What media are Broadcasters excepting HD?”

HDCAM, D5, HDCAM SR…and to a MUCH LESSER extent…DVCPRO HD..Depends on the broadcaster.

Shane

Littlefrog Post
http://www.lfhd.net

[Pete Sake]

Shane, are you sure about shooting 1080p. I have read the brochures on the 500 and 900 and they say 1080i I know the HVX200 only shoots 1080i.
I would love to get a camera that shoots 1080p
Peter

[Shane Ross]

I swear the HVX-200 (I don’t have the camera on me, and I have little shooting experience with it) has a 1080 24PA setting.

Hope someone with the camera chimes in.

Shane

Littlefrog Post
http://www.lfhd.net

[Matt Riley]

[Shane Ross] “I swear the HVX-200 (I don’t have the camera on me, and I have little shooting experience with it) has a 1080 24PA setting.

Hope someone with the camera chimes in.”

The HVX-200 can shoot 1080/24p (traditional 3:2 pull-down inserted), 1080/24pa (advanced pull-down inserted) or 1080/30p. Unfortunately, there is no 1080/24pn mode to save room on the cards. 🙂

-Matt

[Steve Eisen]

Record Times for 16GB P2 Cards:
1080/60i
1080/24p (over60i)
1080/24pA (over60i)
1080/30p (over 60i)
720/60p
720/24p (over 60p)
720/30p (over 60p)

68 minutes

720/24pn Native- 168 minutes

720/30pN (native) – 136 minutes

Yes, the HVX-200 and HPX-500 support these settings.

Steve Eisen
Eisen Video Productions
Director-At-Large
Chicago Final Cut Pro Users Group