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P2 1080 30i down-convert is UGLY
Walter Biscardi replied 16 years, 8 months ago 4 Members · 16 Replies
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John-michael Trojan
September 14, 2009 at 6:52 pmyes – it is getting rather ridiculous.
I was mistaken in my original post. The footage is not 29.97i, it is 30p running at 29.97.
I really just want to get it into a 720×486 29.97 NTSC sequence – or at least master out that way using the aja kona 3 to add pull-down.
Since I can put the 30p footage into a interlaced timeline nicely I thought I would use a high-end coverter to get the footage to 23.98 (which looks pretty great) then add the pull down back in during the down-convert (still looks ugly).
I think I may just ask the client to check with post before he shoots P2 again for the correct settings…
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Walter Biscardi
September 14, 2009 at 7:02 pm[John-Michael Trojan] “I really just want to get it into a 720×486 29.97 NTSC sequence – or at least master out that way using the aja kona 3 to add pull-down. “
Then leave it in the HD timeline and let the Kona do the downconvert to SD. Do Not put your footage into an SD timeline or re-set FCP to SD. Leave FCP in HD and use the Kona to downconvert that signal to SD properly.
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John-michael Trojan
September 14, 2009 at 7:59 pmdone that – same ugly SD footage via the aja – just not as bad…
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John-michael Trojan
September 14, 2009 at 8:17 pmFYI – made it slightly better by switching the field dominance to upper from none. I think this is as good as it gets but still less than satisfactory in my book.
Anyone care to share a good reason to shoot 30p?
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Scott Thomas
September 16, 2009 at 11:30 am“Whoever thought to call it 1080i59.94 has a screw loose.”
I’m not saying he’s right, but you are saying that one of the founders of Pixar “has a screw loose”??? 🙂
https://www.alvyray.com/DigitalTV/Naming_Proposal.htm
Actually he kind of has a point wanting to call it 540/60i, but it runs counter to industry traditions going back more than half a century. It’s more of a case against interlace.
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Walter Biscardi
September 16, 2009 at 11:48 am[Scott Thomas] “I’m not saying he’s right, but you are saying that one of the founders of Pixar “has a screw loose”??? 🙂 “
Absolutely, positively. I can’t stand that 1080i / 29.97 is labelled as 1080i/60. It makes absolutely NO SENSE.
720p/60 is 60 frames per second.
1080i / 60 is 60 fields per second which actually equals 30 frames per second which actually equals 29.97.
AJA has this right with all of their Easy Setups which list it as 1080i / 29.97 because is the ACTUAL frame rate.
So to call it 1080i / 60 means you have a screw loose somewhere to equate 60 fields with 60 frames.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Editor, Colorist, Director, Writer, Consultant, Author.
Credits include multiple Emmy, Telly, Aurora and Peabody Awards.
Owner, Biscardi Creative Media featuring HD Post
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Apple Final Cut Pro, Apple Motion, Apple Color, AJA Kona, Business & Marketing, Maxx Digital.
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