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  • OWC – Tolis Group – BRU Status

     Glenn Sakatch updated 1 week, 5 days ago 11 Members · 19 Posts
  • Gary Norris

    March 16, 2021 at 2:29 am

    I would also like to know the status of BRU/Argest at OWC. Please let me know ASAP. The latest version of Argest (June 1 2020) produces errors when attempting to import the BRU PE environment.

  • Per Scaffidi

    March 18, 2021 at 3:22 pm

    Seconding this request now that we’re heading into Spring. No issues with my archive station at the moment but would like to know that I’ll be able to get support if something happens as our production ramps up.

  • James Vorley

    March 21, 2021 at 12:47 am

    Hi Howard

    Did you manage to import ok? I can help you if you are still struggling.


  • Bob Zelin

    March 21, 2021 at 3:36 pm

    these posts are really starting to bother me.

    Here is the website

    Do you see how newly acquired LumaForge is now on the website, but Tolis Group is not ?

    Here is the OWC website, and when you search for LTO products (3/21/2021) you get 14 listings – here is one of them –

    These OWC products come with myLTO, and it states on all the products from OWC

    Installation of the myLTO application, the Mercury LTO SAS driver, and related components are required before use and require a restart.To learn more about myLTO please visit the online manual.

    and here is myLTO – from Imagine Products –

    you guys need to GROW UP, and realize that ITS OVER. You need to MOVE ON to a modern LTFS solution. This is what OWC is doing. This is what Imagine Products, YoYotta, Hedge Canister, Archiware, and the entire HP Ultrium Group is doing. You need to WAKE UP and move on with your lives, and get a modern system, and just stop this nonsense.

    Bob Zelin

  • Glenn Sakatch

    March 21, 2021 at 5:47 pm

    As much as I love bru…I agree. I’ve started porting over to preroll post, which I already owned. I have to laugh when I realize my arcgest maintenence is going to expire in a couple of months…June I think…. I wonder if they will ask me to renew.

  • Toby Pedersen

    March 22, 2021 at 2:32 pm

    I’m done with Tolis as well. I couldn’t have been more considerate or clear at the outset of our engagement that if he could not handle our request to please just say so and we’d move on – no harm, no foul. I’ve continually offered that up as we wait weeks for every un-actionable email we get. Tim doesn’t owe me anything. However, when you insist you can handle it and just ghost me for weeks, then you ARE being misleading. Bummer. I don’t want to pile on, but that behavior needs a receipt and I’m putting mine here.

  • David Fuller

    March 30, 2021 at 8:55 pm

    Hi Tim,

    I’ve been a Bru PE user for about 10 years, and am looking at the OWC LTO thunderbolt drives to mate with a new MacPro purchase. but a new MacPro will take me to Big Sur, which is strictly 62-bit. Is it possible to purchase an ArGest license at this point? Or do you have any advice for migrating to another software solution that the OWC LTO drives support?

    I’m happy to take this offline if you prefer. You can email me at [email protected]

  • David Fuller

    March 30, 2021 at 9:01 pm

    @bobzellin One of the appeals of the Tolis software is that it writes an archive that does not depend on proprietary software for retrieval. All the data can be retrieved with terminal commands. Is this true of any of the products you are taking about?

  • Glenn Sakatch

    March 31, 2021 at 5:46 am

    Actually Tolis is…was extremely proprietary software, but you really didn’t need to pay for the restore portion of it. I would be pretty weary of trying to buy a license for a piece of software that has essentially been out of business for 9 months, and is a few months past the aforementioned “we are really close” date. Argest was extremely buggy as well. Not nearly as stable as BRU. My Windows version was unusable….literally…it couldn’t access my network drives. They told me the next update would fix the issue….that was in June.

    As for the software Bob mentions, it is all based on LTFS, which is open source. I can write a tape on preroll post, and open it on any other computer that has any other companies LTFS software (including BRU’s LTFS extension, or simply use the free LTFS software that is provided by most drive manufacturers.

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