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Overrated, overcomplicated and non removable.
Posted by Rasmus Jürs on November 11, 2011 at 4:06 pmSo i tried DaVinci Resolve Lite over the weekend to try it out on a project and i have to say MY GOD that program is not for me.
Granted ive seen some people get amazing results from the system and there is nothing wrong with the grading capabilities it has. To me the gui just feel incredibly counter intuitive, and over complicated.
I dont like the way it forces me to use its data managing system, i just want to be able to import my footage, grade it and export. I have a perfectly fine way of managing my files, that is derived from years of trial and error.So i decided to uninstall this thing and thankfully it came with an uninstall application.
The uninstall only removes the core program and leaves all the other 8+(!!!!) application on your machine, along with some useless stuff calle “Start Server” and “SQL shell (psql)” what the hell?!If it doesnt remove alle the crap it installs the dont even bother…
Im sticking with MagicBullet Looks. Intuitive GUI that does the job without any useless secondary-“features”
Ola Haldor voll replied 14 years, 5 months ago 10 Members · 17 Replies -
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Clark Bierbaum
November 11, 2011 at 4:36 pmReally Dude?! Complaining about a FREE program that used to cost $500k minimum. Go back to iMovie and leave the professionals to our dumb program that I couldn’t have dreamed of when I started as a COLORIST 20 years ago.
Thanks Blackmagic for making coloring fun and making it possible for me to say to my clients “Yes we can do that!”
Keep up the good work – those that know wtf they are doing appreciate Resolve!
Clark Bierbaum
Colorist, Contractor, Realtor
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Ola Haldor voll
November 11, 2011 at 4:38 pmYou’re of course free to do whatever you want. Honest decision it’s not for you.
But let me help you, if possible, to like it.What is it about the file handling you don’t like? You CAN in fact import, grade and export in a few simple steps.
First of all, you have to make sure DaVinci sees your hard drive. CMD+COMMA opens the preferences, from here you can add and remove drives as needed. Gotta unplug the external drive? Sure, no problem. No need to remove it from that list either.
Second, jump into BROWSE. The list to the left shows you all available hard drives, and you can go through the hierarchy of folders and add the files you want. Either add complete folders and subfolders, or select that one clip you want.
Next is CONFORM. Create a timeline by clicking the NEW button. This will make a timeline with all the footage you imported. Clips with the lowest TC value first (correct me if I’m wrong – I haven’t really investigated this).
If you want order to the chaos, you have another and MUCH easier way to import both an edited timeline and the footage you need:
OR the quicker and easyer way
Still in the CONFORM page, select LOAD. Find your XML file and it will give you a few options. One of them is to let DaVinci import all the media. Let it do so, maybe guide it to the right folder if needed and give it some time to think.
Once the process is done it will give you a report of what was reconnected and if there’s anything missing.
Then, do your grade either with a panel or the more standard 3-way kind of control.
In the Render window you can select FCP XML roundtrip. Select a destination and a codec. RENDER!
Go back to the conform page, hit EXPORT to make an XML file which will guide Final Cut to the graded material when you import the XML.
This is more text than necessary, and is actually done in a few quick steps. Takes no time. Really.
Still not convinced? I suggest you attend a Resolve demo and get blown away.
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Rasmus Jürs
November 11, 2011 at 4:51 pmMerely expressed my opinion bro. No need to get a hissy-fit and take it all personal.
Those were my initial thoughts on the software and nothing else. Im sure you make great work with it, but it is just not for me.
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Rasmus Jürs
November 11, 2011 at 4:58 pmThis is the first stand alone grading software ive tried. ive always been a plugin kinda guy when it comes to that.
Im sure many of the features i find overcomplicated will come in handy when grading things like feature films. But when it comes down to brasstacks the only feature of DaVinci i miss in After Effects (w/ Looks and Colorista 2) is the tracking. -
Ola Haldor voll
November 11, 2011 at 5:05 pmI weekly grade different projects ranging from music videos, commercials and TV shows. And some times I do short films as well.
Doesn’t matter what the playtime is, it’s about instant feedback and workflow for me. I guess I’m spoiled on performance. I want and need real-time performance. Being able to adjust a clip, jump a few clips back and hit PLAY to see it in context is just awesome
Workflow with Color 1,5 years ago was something like Grade -> Render the whole thing (taking a long time) -> Send to Final Cut, play through and make notes on what shots doesn’t look that good.
Rendering color corrections in an NLE is not an option for me anymore. I get all crazy and start pulling my hair when I see a simple 2 sec clip in FCP needs to render and it will take three minutes.
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Clark Bierbaum
November 11, 2011 at 7:54 pmNo hissy fit, I have been in the industry a long time and know what a great program Resolve is and appreciate the advantages it provides. There are many ways of working and I hope you find your way.
Please don’t trash a free program that many people have spent thousands of hours developing just because you don’t like the way it works. Maybe you can code a better solution and sell it to folks like you.
Peace.
Clark Bierbaum
Colorist, Contractor, Realtor
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Margus Voll
November 11, 2011 at 8:44 pmI would go to some demos as Ola pointed out. Then you can really see what this is all about.
Resolve gives so many ways to have so big control over things that bullet does not give in my mind.
In my mind resolve is simpler and faster to use 🙂
I used to use color and man that was painful.
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Margus
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Robert Houllahan
November 11, 2011 at 8:57 pmI think that maybe before you come on the inter-web and post about how overrated and too complicated Resolve is you should possibly consider your audience.
There are quite a few people who are heavy Resolve users that are involved with top work in Film and TV. There is allot of depth in the app which takes time to learn especially if you are coming from a simple plugin.
I am personally not an “A-List” Colorist but the last feature I graded played to a full house at the Arc-Light theater in LA two weeks ago. I got paid pretty good for that work as it was a picture with a budget shot on 35mm.
Calling Resolve overrated does not make Resolve look bad, it makes you look uninformed.
-Rob-
Robert Houllahan
Director / Colorist
Cinelab Inc.
http://www.cinelab.comMAHC-PRO 6-Core 3X GTX285 20Tb SAS Wave Panel Panny 11UK SDI Plasma.
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Jason Jones
November 11, 2011 at 9:15 pmAs a newbie colorist making the move from Apple Color, may I just say what a generous, thoughtful response this is, OHV. It’s seems like the best of what this forum offers. Nice.
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