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  • overlapping video on one track – “bring to front”

    Posted by Jill Simpson on April 1, 2009 at 2:18 pm

    If I drag and drop a video clip on top of another video clip or clips, it will land “on top” and be the only visible element on that track.
    Sometimes (details below*) the 2nd clip lands underneath the original clip.

    If Vegas was Photoshop, I could click “Bring to Front” to move the layer to the top.
    If a clip is underneath another clip on the same track, how can I bring it to the front/top?

    I know, I know: I can move the original clip from (for example) Track 1 to Track 3, and put the 2nd clip on Track 1, but because adding a clip on top of clips works perfectly in most cases, and saves time moving clips between tracks, and reduces the # of tracks needed, what I’m asking should be possible.

    I know, I know: I can delete the clips that are going to be obscured/obliterated by the added clip, and splice the clips if necessary, but if I do that, then 50 edits later change my mind, I don’t want to have to undo all my still-to-be-kept edits in order to return to the state before I made these cuts.

    * The added clip lands underneath when:
    the 2nd clip’s left edge is to the left of the original clip’s left edge.

    Thank you

    Jill Simpson replied 17 years, 1 month ago 6 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Steve Rhoden

    April 1, 2009 at 2:47 pm

    Well…You already knows quite well how vegas functions…
    and that bring to front feature thats available in
    photoshop does not function that way in vegas.
    You can however try to get full acquainted with the
    parenting and child features.

    Steve Rhoden
    (Cow Leader)
    Creative Arts Director and Film Maker.
    Portfolio at:
    http://www.youtube.com/hentys

  • John Rofrano

    April 1, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    You really need to use two tracks. The fact that a clip can slide over or under another clip on the same track is a very dangerous thing. You should not do it intentionally. Trust me on this… use another track. You don’t want the nightmare of clips under clips. That’s why tracks are unlimited!

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Theo Van laar

    April 1, 2009 at 6:34 pm

    But if you have multiple takes on one event, you can simply perform the “bring to front” task by selecting the event and pressing “T”.

    Theo

  • John Rofrano

    April 2, 2009 at 12:37 am

    Yes, for takes. But I believe Jill was talking about sliding smaller events over a larger one to replace some (but not all) of the event. This is best done on a separate track.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Graham Bernard

    April 2, 2009 at 6:33 am

    You want the same functionality of a Graphics Editor: Bring to Top – yes? Then why not just move the track? Done!

    Track Position 1 Photo1
    Track Position 2 Photo2
    Track Position 3 Photo3

    And after moving:

    Track Position 1 Photo3
    Track Position 2 Photo1
    Track Position 3 Photo2

    Now, if you use Drag as Takes from your Project Media Bin you can add as takes TO a single Event and then you ALSO have the option to HIT “T” to select a Take – an individual Photo – too!

    So, Control Drags + Track Position Moves will give you many options. Move track position will bring Media top bottom or ANY layer you want.

    Now, if you have sets of Track Motion you want to retain, then make THEM Children to a Parent and move the parent – the Kidz will follow .. well mostly .. depends if there is Ice Cream on offer or not!!!

    I have done MUCH graphics work in VEgas, but ssshhhh don’t tell everybody . ..

    Grazie

  • Adam Rose esq.

    April 2, 2009 at 8:29 am

    I hear you, Jill. Experimented with your findings and was amused that I’d never noticed that behaviour before.
    Well, the only solution I’ve found is to drag the 2nd clip (currently underneath) to the right, and then it pops to the front. Not really helpful, since no doubt you wanted the 2nd clip more to the left, but can’t see any easy solution if not wanting to add tracks…..

    also, it makes sense that the 2nd clip WOULD be under the older clip, since it is trying to create a dissolve / transition.

  • Graham Bernard

    April 2, 2009 at 8:50 am

    Adam, unless I am missing something, I also “heard” Jill.

    How is this, adding Tracks, different in terms of function, to adding Layers in a Graphics Editor? I was responding to Jill’s request to how to add layers as if it were a Graphics Package – bring back to front or bottom to top and middle to back and so on and so forth. If I wish to “layer” a graphic then I need Layers. If I want something similar in Vegas I add a Track. Simples!

    Grazie

  • Adam Rose esq.

    April 2, 2009 at 9:18 am

    lol, Graham. Your point was on the money – the only reason for my posting was that Jill mentioned she wanted to avoid adding tracks, IIRC.

    🙂

  • Jill Simpson

    April 2, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    Another Option:

    Select all the clips I want to put ‘underneath’ (ctrl-click, ctrl-click, …), right-click, Switches > Mute.

    If you already have the ‘new’ clip ‘standing by’ on a lower track, this method is simpler than cutting the ‘new’ clip, moving the originals, pasting the ‘new’ – and then possibly reversing all that if the outcome is not what you want.

    I accept that overlaying clips is bound to result in ‘lost’ edits (“Where did I put that thing?”), so I am satisfied.

    Thanks.

  • Jill Simpson

    April 2, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    I think it’s only possible to make a whole track a parent or child – I can’t set events or portions of tracks as parent/child, can I?

    (I read the help files (including all the collapsed sections) on “Compositing and Masks” and “3D Compositing”.)

    I know I do not make full use of Parent/Child compositing in my work, but I don’t see how it can help with what I’m trying to do here (or related situations). Did you have something specific in mind that I’m not seeing?

    Thanks Steve,
    Jill

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