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  • Output to DV camera

    Posted by Carlos E. martinez on August 18, 2006 at 12:12 pm

    Some weeks ago I tried to output an edit I had done on the Xpress Pro HD directly to my Sony PDX10.

    The problem is the DV audio tracks I got had several click noises when there are none in the original sound.

    The connection is firewire, so I expected it to be a very clean copy.

    What may be causing the clicks and how can I fix that?

    I wonder if there is a particular workflow in order to do that and/or a way to control the camera directly from Avid. As it was I did my copy pressing record on the camera first and then play on the Xpress.

    Carlos E. martinez replied 19 years, 8 months ago 4 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Scott Simmons

    August 18, 2006 at 2:48 pm

    You should use the digital cut tool for outputing. under clip > digital cut. This give you all the transport controls and such.

  • David Braswell

    August 18, 2006 at 2:49 pm

    What kind of audio levels did you have on your mastered sequence? Did you normalize, compress, or otherwise raise audio level of your raw clips?

    Unless Avid doesn’t support your camera you can do a crash record. Place your camera in VTR mode and select DV25 from the Digital Cut menu. Choose ignore time as well. When you hit the record button your camera should record your sequence from in to out.

  • Carlos E. martinez

    August 18, 2006 at 3:09 pm

    [quote]What kind of audio levels did you have on your mastered sequence? Did you normalize, compress, or otherwise raise audio level of your raw clips?[/quote]

    No levels clipping of course. The click noises were not on potential clips, but anywhere, no apparent reason, random.

    I raised the levels on some clips, but nothing unusual. Used no compression. The DVDs I made were fine, but I wanted to have a better quality copy, just in case.

    [quote]Unless Avid doesn’t support your camera you can do a crash record. Place your camera in VTR mode and select DV25 from the Digital Cut menu. Choose ignore time as well. When you hit the record button your camera should record your sequence from in to out.[/quote]

    My camera is supported by Avid: I capture from it.

    I will follow the instructions for Digital Cut.

    Thanks!

  • Scott Simmons

    August 18, 2006 at 3:35 pm

    Carlos, if you are trying to master to tape I wouldn’t use the crash record function. The Digital Cut tool will do a proper assemble edit to tape if you prestripe a bit. Go under the settings > deck preferences > and turn on Allow assemble edit. I then lay my bars, tone, slate and all in the timeline with pic starting at 1:00:00:00, prestripe my tape as such and set my timeline to match. It seems like a lot more steps than crash record but it is the standard for tape masters and I’ve seen less issues with digital cut when I let the avid take over and do it all for me. Good luck.

  • Dan O’brien

    August 18, 2006 at 4:42 pm

    If you’re still getting audio hits, try doing an audio mixdown and see if that helps with your output…

    Dan

    PrEditors.net

  • Carlos E. martinez

    August 18, 2006 at 6:56 pm

    Editblog,

    I think your idea is quite interesting.

    Please tell me a bit more on how to proceed to prestripe my tape and match with the timeline.

    I am not too sure on how to do it.

    This is not to be a master tape though, just a way to have a better copy. But I think having the color bars and audio tone at the beginning might be good.

    When I did my first tape I did add the color bars from the camera itself, just assembling the edit after that.

    I am not too sure of adding the color bar directly onto the timeline, as that would add up on my time-codes. Is there a way to override those bars beginning and leave them with no TC? My guess is it is not, but…

  • Scott Simmons

    August 18, 2006 at 7:04 pm

    It’s a bit of an involved process. You have to prestripe the tape using your deck. I’d look in the manual for that. Most decks allow this. Set the timecode to 00:58:00:00 and stripe past 01:00:00:00. The set the avid timeline. With the record monitor active hit command + I (i’m on a mac) and give the timeline new code, probably like 00:59:00:00 depending on what’s in the timeline. You import bars and a slate and all and start program at 1:00:00:00. In Dig Cut tool you have deck control Sequence Time and Assemble Edit. It matches the code on tape and off you go.
    Again, it’s pretty complex but once you do it once not biggie. I’d read up on the digital cut tool and outputting in the manual and help menu. No one likes the manual but you can probably get it from there.

  • Carlos E. martinez

    August 18, 2006 at 9:53 pm

    Thanks for the instructions.

    But I won’t be able to do that with my present deck, which is really a DV camera.

    As far as I know DV cameras do not let you set TC values, so that can’t be done.

    In any case I could do a Digital Cut copy, controlling the camera from the Avid, and got a very good copy.

    Beautiful video, great sound. No clicks or nothing.

    Thanks to everyone!

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