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  • Output inconsistent in Final Cut from AE

    Posted by Jerry Sneede on June 19, 2009 at 3:25 pm

    I’m taking in footage into AE that’s in ProRes 422 HQ. When I export from AE in ProRes 422 HQ, I was noticing the things looking a bit lighter in FCP. So I did a test and exported from AE in Uncompressed 8 Bit. This looked darker on my cinema display, but the strange this is, I noticed when I toggled between the PreRes and the Uncompressed, I could see things getting lighter and darker on the cinema display only, not on my CRT (using RGB output from the AJA LHE) or the Flat screen (SDI from the AJA to HDMI converter box). I’ve never seen anything like this, where the footage in the viewer window was changing dramatically, and not changing at all on the monitor.

    So I guess there are two questions here – what’s the best way to maintain the integrity of the AE output so it looks the same when brought in to FCP, and why am I seeing things change in FCP and not in my monitor?

    Thanks,

    Jerry

    Todd Kopriva replied 16 years, 10 months ago 3 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Jerry Sneede

    June 19, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    I clicked the enable FCP compatibility button in the QT preferences, and that changed what the ProRes version of the test I made looked like, and made it look more like it did in the FCP viewer. It didn’t effect the Uncompressed or Animation versions. But, it didn’t make any change to what the footage looked like in FCP, or address the issue of things looking different between the versions in the view and not looking different on the monitor.

    – Jerry

  • Jerry Sneede

    June 19, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    Let me clarify what I meant in the last message – clicking that button in QT preferences changed what the footage looked like in QT itself, but had no effect in FCP.

    – Dave

  • Jerry Sneede

    June 19, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    I just rerendered all three test versions from AE, and still the same thing.

    – J

  • Philippe Lessard

    June 19, 2009 at 6:08 pm

    In AE, under project setting, there’s a check box named match after effects quicktime gamma adjustments, try it.You can try to export from file menu instead of add to render queue, this way you’r sure is quicktime render, not the AE render module.

    Hope this help

  • Jerry Sneede

    June 19, 2009 at 6:37 pm

    I did tests with the box checked and unchecked. That had no effect. But, the strange thing is, exporting from the File menu did have an effect, and the crazy thing is, it’s the opposite effect as before. Now, the ProRes looks washed out on the monitors, and the Animation looks darker, there’s a huge difference between the two, but only on the monitors, and very little difference on the viewer in FCP, the opposite from what was happening before. This is very disconcerting.

    – J

  • Jerry Sneede

    June 19, 2009 at 6:58 pm

    Well, that’s the strange thing – originally, the exported footage looked different on the FCP computer monitor when toggling between the ProRes and Animation codec, but didn’t look different at all on the CRT (or flat screen). Then, when I tried the export through the File menu on AE, the opposite was the case, and the CRT (and flat screen) both showed a big difference, but there was only a very small change on the FCP computer monitor.

  • Todd Kopriva

    June 20, 2009 at 2:00 am

    “But, the strange thing is, exporting from the File menu did have an effect, and the crazy thing is, it’s the opposite effect as before.”

    If you’re using the File > Export menu, then you’re turning your rendering and exporting over to QuickTime components. That is usually a bad idea. Colors are handled differently by the QuickTime exporters. Among other things.

    I have a post on my blog about preventing color shifts with ProRes, by the way.

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