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  • Output format “cluster f”

    Posted by Tracy Smith on May 30, 2008 at 10:56 pm

    Wow, this last 7 days has been my turn to get my butt collectively kicked by format “hell”. The last post I put out no one seemed to be able to answer…and it wasn’t just the knowledge of the “Cow” who could not figure out why. New question-This week I had to output to four different variants of HD. It was coming from a mix source edit, 24P DVCPRO 720 and a few shots sprinkled from the JVC110 at 30PHDV
    It had to go out Animation codec for “Smoke”to convert to a broadcast server, XDCAM 35mbps, HDV and DVC PRo. Plus the SD and SDDVD versions.

    I made it work, but after dealing with several flashes for hours and finally getting it right. And honestly I’m not too sure, how I made it right. I literally kept converting trying different things (using duplicate files) until I could get it to mesh. Is it better to use 24P material then up convert to 1080i or use 30P material? I’m kind of leaning toward the 24P. Just from the output results I’ve seen. But before I put my foot down on how folks should shoot. I was wondering if you folks could elaborate from your experience? I definitely don’t want to be “mixing” like that again if I can avoid it!

    Thanks!

    Jeremy Garchow replied 17 years, 11 months ago 3 Members · 2 Replies
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  • Rafael Amador

    May 31, 2008 at 2:33 am

    [Tracy Smith] “It had to go out Animation codec for “Smoke””
    Have a look to Sheer:

    http://www.bitjazz.com

    Mac OX 10.5.2-FC 6.02-QT 7.4.1
    G5 2x2Gh 4GbRAM-BlackMagic Extreme
    PMBP 17″Core2Duo 4GbRAM-AJA ioHD
    JVC DTV-17″
    SONY EX-1 . SONY PD170
    ..and always a big mess on top of the table.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 31, 2008 at 3:04 am

    Tracy, go ahead and say it, and say it out loud as you read it.

    Cluster Farck.

    Again.

    Cluster Farck.

    “Cluster f” is just not as satisfying.

    One of the easiest ways to choose an editing timeline is to:

    1) Start with the greatest percentage of footage that you have.
    If you have 75% 1080i, 20% 720p and 4% NTSC and 1% PAL, it’s highly obvious that you should edit in a PAL timeline.

    2) Just kidding about number 1, you might want to edit in a 1080i timeline in that scenario.

    3) Conform/Capture everything to your Hd delivery format before you edit as SD masters are easy to make from HD masters.

    4) Make a wheel with every format known to humans, spin it and suffer your fate. 2 men enter, one man leave.

    Alright, now that you know exactly what to do from my easy four step program, this post is closed.

    Just kidding again.

    Please tell me what you sources are. You said DVCPro HD 24p (is that p2 shot 720p24N or what?) and you also said 720p30 HDV so I assume that’s from tape? How much of each do you have (ie what’s the majority of your footage)?

    Now your deliverables.

    – The broadcast server, what format/frame rate does that need to be?

    – XDCam 35mb. Do you have a deck for that or is it a file you are delivering?

    – HDV, what format and frame rate and to what deck?

    – DVCPro, as in DVCPro 25? Or DVCPro 50 or HD?

    SD we won’t worry about.

    Do you have a capture card?

    Jeremy

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