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out of memory during export quicktime conversion
https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/8/1077451
I found the above post about this issue and I know that it can be caused by large still images and sometimes motion files in timelines. I’ve removed all of those elements from my timeline and I am still getting the out of memory error. If I attempt to go through compressor, Final Cut force quits always about a fifth of the way through the render. It’s a 18 minute clip with A LOT of effects.
My question is this: I’m using some of the master templates for lower thirds. Are these Motion files? Could they be the culprit possibly? Any other ideas?
Other timelines will render fine so I know it’s something about this project. I’ve already restarted and trashed preferences. Thanks for your advice.
Mike
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Is the sequence all rendered? If not try that on a few clips at a time. The one with the problem will cause the crash… rebuild that edit and give it another go.
Once it’s all rendered, I think I’d export a self contained movie of the sequence, and use Compressor for your transcode.
Jerry
Apple Certified Trainer, Producer, Writer, Director Editor, Gun for Hire and other things. I ski. My Blog: https://blogs.creativecow.net/Jerry-Hofmann
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It was all rendered. I trashed the render cache and re-rendered. It’s getting further along now, although it’s taking a while. The strange thing is that in the activity monitor Final Cut is constantly becoming non-responsive and then resuming the render. It’s also only using 6-13% of the CPU which seems odd because there are no other programs running.
Have you, or anyone else, seen that kind of behavior while rendering a complex timeline in FCP? What could cause such a thing?
We’re on a 12 core machine with 16Gb of Ram so I wouldn’t think this should be the norm. We also recently re-installed the OS to attempt to knock any weird software issues.
Thanks for your input.
Mike
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Do you have lots of extra room on the hard drive you’re rendering this to? Or, are any of your hard drives close to full?
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
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So it got past 92% and at some point came up with the message “out of disk space”.
However, the drive I am rendering to has 400Gb free so I’m not sure how that could be an issue.
Any idea?
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FCP 7 and earlier isn’t capable of using all the CPU power you have. It’s ancient code written for OS 8. Just one of the reasons Apple started over with FCP X.
So I’d say what you’re seeing is normal. Complex sequences do take longer for sure, and certain filters take a very long time to render in FCP 7.
Jerry
Apple Certified Trainer, Producer, Writer, Director Editor, Gun for Hire and other things. I ski. My Blog: https://blogs.creativecow.net/Jerry-Hofmann
Current DVD:
https://store.creativecow.net/p/81/jerry_hofmanns_final_cut_system_setup8-Core 3.0 Intel Mac Pro, Dual 2 gig G5, AJA Kona SD, AJA Kona 2, Huge Systems Array UL3D, AJA Io HD, 17″ MBP, Matrox MXO2 with MAX – Cinema Displays I have a 22″ that I paid 4k for still working. G4 with Kona SD card, and SCSI card.
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[Michael Garske] ” the drive I am rendering to has 400Gb free so I’m not sure how that could be an issue. “
Well, since we don’t have a clue how big the file is you’re attempting to render or how big the hard drive is, we certainly can’t figure it out for you. Evidently FCP sees a problem, and the questions is why???
You’re gonna have to tell us the following:
1) What percentage of of the overall storage space on the drive is 400Gb?
2) How big is the file you’re trying to compress?
3) Have you tried exporting a self contained QT at current settings first, then using that as your master to compress to another codec?
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.comDon’t miss my new tutorial: Prepare for a seamless transition to FCP X and OS X Lion
https://library.creativecow.net/weiss_roth_david/FCP-10-MAC-Lion/1POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums.
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-It’s the system drive that is 511Gb with 400Gb free.
-I’m not sure how big the file will be. It’s coming from a timeline that’s 18 minutes long through quicktime conversion into prores 422.
“3) Have you tried exporting a self contained QT at current settings first, then using that as your master to compress to another codec?”
-I think that’s what I’m trying by going through Quicktime conversion then jumping to Compressor, right?
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I’m attempting to do QT conversion again to a non-system drive that has 2.12Tb of 3Tb free. It seems to be going faster, fingers crossed it works.
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How much room is on your startup disk? If it’s near full FCP can’t cache to it.
You might find that rendering just the last bit in it’s own sequence (you could nest it) and then close the master sequence. Render just the nested sequence… might fix you right up.
What takes up memory is complex sequences. Once FCP 7 uses up 2.7 gigs of RAM it has to disk cache to move on. If you open only what’s needed to be rendered yet, you’ll open RAM up. Restart FCP after you’ve setup this smaller sequence, and it will clear out the RAM, Render and then open the master sequence for an export. If you’ve nested that last bit, it should be rendered in it’s nest.
Jerry
Apple Certified Trainer, Producer, Writer, Director Editor, Gun for Hire and other things. I ski. My Blog: https://blogs.creativecow.net/Jerry-Hofmann
Current DVD:
https://store.creativecow.net/p/81/jerry_hofmanns_final_cut_system_setup8-Core 3.0 Intel Mac Pro, Dual 2 gig G5, AJA Kona SD, AJA Kona 2, Huge Systems Array UL3D, AJA Io HD, 17″ MBP, Matrox MXO2 with MAX – Cinema Displays I have a 22″ that I paid 4k for still working. G4 with Kona SD card, and SCSI card.
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Getting to the other drive worked for the quicktime conversion. I think I’ll just avoid the system drive in the future although it would seem there’s plenty of space (400 out of 511Gb). Going to compressor now to see if it’s good to go. Thanks a lot for your time and knowledge it was a big help!
cheers,
Michael Garske
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