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  • Jonathan Dortch

    June 23, 2011 at 4:48 pm

    [Jamie Franklin] “And how do you reference with confidence? You can’t grade it, so what do you do?”

    You can’t reference on an NTSC monitor yet… really lame. Probably have to wait on third party support, the software is only a day old.

    There are scopes and full color correction tools at least as powerful as FCP7 from my limited use.

    [Jamie Franklin] “How do you deliver audio? Can you deliver separate dialogue and M&E track?”

    No OMF but there is still the ability to export Audio only from the timeline, and it’s actually easier/quicker to do in a variety of formats (AIFF, AAC, CAF, WAV). You can separate your audio into proper stems and export accordingly.

    JONATHAN DORTCH
    BLACK WOLF CREATIVE

  • Michael Hancock

    June 23, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    [Jonathan Dortch] “Using the Metadata for logging, labeling, organizing, searching, media. It’s like having a little robot for an assistant.”

    I like the concept of this, but how do you use this to keep your stuff really organized? Example – I always have bins for Graphics, Titles, SFX, Renders, Old Sequences, Music, VO, etc… Can you still organize this way in FCPX? Or do I have to select all my SFX and tag them with SFX, tag all Titles with Title, all music with Music, etc?

    [Jonathan Dortch] “The structure of the Event system keeping track of an copying all files used in an edit greatly facilitates wrapping out/transferring projects. No more manually making sure all of your elements are sourced to the client drive.”

    Regarding the Events folder – sounds like FCP is finally doing a good job of media management. A mix between Avid and FCP/Premiere. You can edit with the footage where it lies, or have it transcode it all to one folder for easy backup/tracking. I started on Avid so this would be a welcome addition for media tracking – just not sure I’m ready to give up how my footage is organized once it’s in the program. I’m looking forward to tutorials that explain this in further depth.

    Any more hidden gems?

    Michael

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    Michael Hancock
    Editor

  • Matt Callac

    June 23, 2011 at 5:11 pm

    [Brad Jordan] “skateboard videos (which, by the way are a very profitable business).”

    now not only are you an editor, but you’ve got street cred in my book. I’m a skater.

    -mattyc

  • Brad Jordan

    June 23, 2011 at 5:15 pm

    Matt, Do you know Chris Theissen with Transworld Skateboarding? He’s a videographer with them. I produced his wedding last July. Great guy. Super talent.

  • Matt Callac

    June 23, 2011 at 5:27 pm

    [Brad Jordan] ” Matt, Do you know Chris Theissen with Transworld Skateboarding? He’s a videographer with them. I produced his wedding last July. Great guy. Super talent.”

    No, I don’t know any industry folks. Huge fan of the transworld vids though. Chris Ray/John holland seem to be 2 of the only guys that make skate vids that actually understand editing. Other than Ty evans and french fred.

    -mattyc

  • Chris Harlan

    June 23, 2011 at 5:53 pm

    How can you make stems? There are no tracks or assignable channels. The ONLY way to make stems is to turn off all clips that are not, say, dialog and then render out, then turn all back on and repeat for each stem. So technically, it is possible, but extremely tedious. Or am I blind? Am I missing something? I’d sure like to be, but really, I don’t think you can say that you can render out stems in any meaningful way.

  • David Burch

    June 23, 2011 at 7:51 pm

    I’m having the same experience, and as such am crossing my fingers that they will make good on adding certain crucial features (multiclip, XML, tape output). Even if they only added multiclip, FCPX would be a worthwhile program for my workflow and able to replace the old software for most of my work. Without it, I’m stuck using the FCP 7 for the lion’s share of what I do, even if it’s only for a portion of the project.

  • Misha Aranyshev

    June 23, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    I’m providing broadcast material. I’m also providing film material. Remember, the celluloid strip with perforation on both sides? I’m very angry at what Apple just did. So I perfectly fit the description of a member of “elite class” you refer to. So please let me tell you why the riot that’s going on here is fully justified.

    Were you using FCP7 a while ago? Did you like it? I guess you did. So it happens the tool well designed for my type of work is just as good for your type of work. Unfortunately the reverse isn’t the case.

    We both paid for previous versions of FCP. Apple took my money just as gladly as yours. But they decided to spend it on something that’s good for you but totally useless for me. And there are strong technical and economical reasons to believe they are not going to add the stuff I need any time soon.

    I’m sure your client are as demanding as mine but I have added pressure of having a number of colleagues working on the same project up and down the production pipeline. And to be honest any of them can screw things up any moment. So I’m constantly looking for a way to shave a second on any task I’m doing to catch up the deadline. That means you have the luxury of being less efficient than me if you feel so. Doesn’t mean that you wish to be but you can afford more than I.

    I don’t advertise myself as “Broadcast Editor”, “Online Editor” or “Film Editor”. I’m just an editor so if someone comes to me asking to cut something for web or DVD delivery I must do it unless the subject is objectionable to me. Especially when I’m not freelancing but work for a facility. That means I’m probably as good at what you do as you, at least technically.

    The fact you don’t intend to provide “broadcast material” doesn’t mean you won’t do it one day. The client comes and asks for DCP instead of BluRay and you’re suddenly a member of the same “elite class”. We don’t do some particular work to boast about it on the COW. We do it because it pays our bills.

  • Brad Jordan

    June 23, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    You just confirmed my point. I never said the riot wasn’t justified. But your patronizing post just showed why I’m so turned off by the Cow forums now. I understand you’re pissed. Just stop rubbing it in people’s faces that have heard your complaint, understand your complaint, hope it gets fixed as much as you and would like to start moving on to learn this software to decide if I need to stick with it or jump ship. Peace.

  • Tangier Clarke

    June 23, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    I’ve been using it since release and am really loving it. My workflow has significantly increased due to the power of this application. I too miss many of the features form FCP 7 and would like to see most if not all placed back. Yep – there’s a learning curve, but the new means of organization actually is so much better for me. I can easily see myself months from now wondering how I ever got along on FCP 7 and before.

    Don’t get me wrong though. Apple needs to put some things back. I know they’re a market leader and forward thinking company, but some fundamental features should have been left alone and brought over.

    From what I can tell, the future is very bright for FCP and not just on the desktop. I try not to think of FCP as an island, but it’s role in the bigger picture of QT X (AV Foundation), iOS, upcoming displays, Python scripting, and portable devices. As technology changes the idea of “pro” will adjust (albeit from Apple or whoever) as well.

    Tangier

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