OT- XDCAM EX

[Chris Stevens]

No problem.
chris@waterlineproductions.co.uk

G5 dual 2.7, OS10.5.1, 4G RAM
Media100 HD V12 & Producer, AE 7
5.6 terra RAID

[Michael Hanish]

Likewise, drop a line:
michael@freelunchmedia.com

[Michael Slowe]

Kieran, why off list may I ask, the EX1 question is a burning one and I, for one, would love to know what other users of this camera are doing and what Media 100 are doing.

Michael Slowe

[Kieran Matthew]

Hi Michael,

[Michael Slowe] “Kieran, why off list may I ask”

It was just that I wanted some specific info about the workflow without it bogging down the Media 100 forum. Chatting informally off-list just seemed more appropriate.

I’d love to hear your thoughts on the subject though, so perhaps we could open this up to general discussion?

K

P.S. Thanks also to Chris & Michael (H) for your info – it was much appreciated!

[Michael Slowe]

It’s just that I was reluctant to post my E Mail address publicly since I already get so much spam as I suppose we all do, how do they get our addresses?

My current workflow with media from the EX1 is to shoot in SP mode (which is HDV 1440 / 1080i) for the simple reason that although 1920 / 1080 video can go from the camera into Media 100 via the SDI out it has the audio embedded and my version 12.1.1 can only take embedded audio in SD. So I convert the HDV (Convergent Design HD-Connect) to HD for editing in Media 100.

That is why I’m, in common with many other new EX1 users,very keen to learn how Media 100 are getting on with the job of cracking the codec so we can stick with the best editing system there is. I hope we don’t have to go through too many hoops in unwrapping the files, what we want is acquisition straight in to bins if possible. Are there any Media 100 users with new EX1’s experimenting like me and waiting for developments?

Michael Slowe

[Floh Peters]

[Michael Slowe] “My current workflow with media from the EX1 is to shoot in SP mode (which is HDV 1440 / 1080i) for the simple reason that although 1920 / 1080 video can go from the camera into Media 100 via the SDI out it has the audio embedded and my version 12.1.1 can only take embedded audio in SD. So I convert the HDV (Convergent Design HD-Connect) to HD for editing in Media 100.
“

Has anybody tried ingesting from EX1 via FireWire/HDV into V12.5? Since the EX1 can shoot in HDV mode I guess/hope that this could actually be used like a HDV cam. If anybody with an EX1 and V12.5 (or with the 12.5 trial version) could try that, I think here are some people who would be interested in the results.

[Michael Slowe]

Yes Floh, that’s exactly what I do but I use the HD-Connect box to do the upscale whereas I think Media 100 does the upscale within version 12.5. Both ways involve shooting in HDV (SP mode in the EX1) and editing in HD because (am I right?) Media 100 does not handle HDV natively. My results are pretty good but obviously it would be preferable to shoot in the HQ mode and acquire the media direct rather than do an upscale.

Michael Slowe

[Michael Hanish]

I agree that it’s a great idea to bring this discussion to the M100 board. I’m just starting to muddle through a proper workflow (for my purposes) with the EX1 and Media100, and I’ll repeat and expand a bit on what I wrote to Kieran.

I’m using both desktop and Producer based Media100 system, both 12.5. The MacPro is based around a Kona 3 card. It’s been working fantastically well, with just a couple of weird wrinkles. Been working on a current project in DVCProHD codec, as it plays back fine from a FW 800 array I can take with me when I have to be portable. It’s not always the best, but it works.

My workflow after shoots (I have a 16 GB and 2 8 GB SxS cards, so thus far I haven’t had to do card dumps on location, though that is in the near future), shooting 1080i, has been to make folders with date and descriptive names and put each card’s contents (BPAV) into them as backup/archive using either Sony’s transfer software or ShotPut. Then I have been digitizing identified selects via SDI into the Kona 3. When I have had to revisit a card’s contents, it has been easy enough to check clips using Sony’s software, and then reload any card’s contents back onto a card and capture stuff through the camera.

I haven’t been shooting in SP/HDV mode as I have not really cared for the look for my purposes, but I will try to shoot some and use Firewire for ingest (unless someone gets there first) when next I come up for air.

There are other issues with my workflow that I’ll post next time I can.
Hope this is of some help for the discussion.
best,

Michael

[Michael Hanish]

I agree that it’s a great idea to bring this discussion to the M100 board. I’m just starting to muddle through a proper workflow (for my purposes) with the EX1 and Media100, and I’ll repeat and expand a bit on what I wrote to Kieran.

I’m using both desktop and Producer based Media100 system, both 12.5. The MacPro is based around a Kona 3 card. It’s been working fantastically well, with just a couple of weird wrinkles. Been working on a current project in DVCProHD codec, as it plays back fine from a FW 800 array I can take with me when I have to be portable. It’s not always the best, but it works.

My workflow after shoots (I have a 16 GB and 2 8 GB SxS cards, so thus far I haven’t had to do card dumps on location, though that is in the near future), shooting 1080i, has been to make folders with date and descriptive names and put each card’s contents (BPAV) into them as backup/archive using either Sony’s transfer software or ShotPut. Then I have been digitizing identified selects via SDI into the Kona 3. When I have had to revisit a card’s contents, it has been easy enough to check clips using Sony’s software, and then reload any card’s contents back onto a card and capture stuff through the camera.

I haven’t been shooting in SP/HDV mode as I have not really cared for the look for my purposes, but I will try to shoot some and use Firewire for ingest (unless someone gets there first) when next I come up for air.

There are other issues with my workflow that I’ll post next time I can.
Hope this is of some help for the discussion.
best,

Michael

[Michael Hanish]

I agree that it’s a great idea to bring this discussion to the M100 board. I’m just starting to muddle through a proper workflow (for my purposes) with the EX1 and Media100, and I’ll repeat and expand a bit on what I wrote to Kieran.

I’m using both desktop and Producer based Media100 system, both 12.5. The MacPro is based around a Kona 3 card. It’s been working fantastically well, with just a couple of weird wrinkles. Been working on a current project in DVCProHD codec, as it plays back fine from a FW 800 array I can take with me when I have to be portable. It’s not always the best, but it works.

My workflow after shoots (I have a 16 GB and 2 8 GB SxS cards, so thus far I haven’t had to do card dumps on location, though that is in the near future), shooting 1080i, has been to make folders with date and descriptive names and put each card’s contents (BPAV) into them as backup/archive using either Sony’s transfer software or ShotPut. Then I have been digitizing identified selects via SDI into the Kona 3. When I have had to revisit a card’s contents, it has been easy enough to check clips using Sony’s software, and then reload any card’s contents back onto a card and capture stuff through the camera.

I haven’t been shooting in SP/HDV mode as I have not really cared for the look for my purposes, but I will try to shoot some and use Firewire for ingest (unless someone gets there first) when next I come up for air.

There are other issues with my workflow that I’ll post next time I can.
Hope this is of some help for the discussion.
best,

Michael