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  • OT: What video camera do you use/recommend?

     David Shirey updated 6 years, 3 months ago 7 Members · 9 Posts
  • Nigel O’Neill

    July 29, 2015 at 12:58 pm

    I am looking to replace my Sony Z1P war horse with something a bit more contemporary. I do a lot of live theatre work, so the following are my criteria:

    • 12x minimum, up to 20x servo optical zoom
    • Card based recording
    • Able to produce low noise images in low light conditions
    • XLR input(s)
    • Connection for a pan handle zoom controller (LANC or similar)
    • SDI or RCA video out
    • Independent control of iris, shutter speed, zoom, focus, gain and white balance.

      I have used both the Sony EX1 and Sony NXCAM NX5, but have found that the Z1P outperforms both in low light conditions (produces a virtually noise free image) and well as colour accuracy/reproduction.

      As I live in ‘the land down under’, the camera would need to record in PAL, but I am assuming most camera models are made for both markets i.e PAL/NTSC

      I would like to keep it below USD$5,000

      My system specs: Intel i7 970, 12GB RAM, ASUS P6T, Vegas Pro 12 (x64), Windows 7 x64 Ultimate, Vegas Production Assistant 1.0, VASST Ultimate S Pro 4.1, Neat Video Pro 2.6

  • Bob Peterson

    July 29, 2015 at 4:01 pm

    My most recent camera is a Canon HFG 30. Although it doesn’t meet all of your specs, it has been a very impressive camera for a modest price. It has things like 20x optical zoom, but lacks things like XLR inputs. What I have been most impressed by is its focusing system. It includes face detection, and will lock onto a subject if you simply touch the view finder to show it the subject. It also seems to have a clearer and better image in terms of exposure and color than my older XH-A1 which is a pro level camera. For audio, my main recorder is a Zoom H4N which accepts XLR input. I rarely use the audio recorded by the camera for anything other than synching the video from multiple cameras. Thus, the lack of XLR is not a problem for me.

  • Blaise Douros

    July 29, 2015 at 9:12 pm

    The Sony X70 might be a good choice – as a bonus, it shoots a 10-bit 4:2:2 codec.

    Only thing it might not have is a LANC input, can’t remember off the top of my head whether it does or not.

  • Mala Kas

    July 30, 2015 at 7:47 am

    Hello,
    i am wondering if the Z1 is a better Low Light Performer than the ex-1.
    The ex has a 2/3 sensor and the Z1 “only” has a 1/3 sensor.

    I mean i had the Z1 by myself and the LL Performance is acceptable – good, but i think the Ex-1 goes better at l-l situations.

    For your case:
    I would go with a pana
    AG-AC 160 or the new DVX200

    or have a look at the Canon xf 300 / 305

    would be better for you spending a couple of bucks and borrow them before you buy.

    regards

  • Nigel O’Neill

    July 30, 2015 at 9:51 am

    [Mala Kas] “The ex has a 2/3 sensor and the Z1 “only” has a 1/3 sensor”

    The Z1 has 3 CCD’s. I just found the EX1 image grainy in low light situations, plus I have had lots of gamma issues with the EX1. Purple satin fabric would come out ruby red and almost flat. I found it a very difficult camera to match with my Z1.

    My system specs: Intel i7 970, 12GB RAM, ASUS P6T, Vegas Pro 12 (x64), Windows 7 x64 Ultimate, Vegas Production Assistant 1.0, VASST Ultimate S Pro 4.1, Neat Video Pro 2.6

  • David Shirey

    August 5, 2015 at 8:27 pm

    [Nigel O'Neill] “Purple satin fabric would come out ruby red and almost flat”

    I’ve been using EX1’s since 2008 and know exactly what you mean. There was a graduation I used to shoot every year that had a green satin drape on the table for the diplomas and it always came out sort of flat and brownish. Weirdest thing.

  • Aaron Star

    August 5, 2015 at 10:10 pm

    If you are a Vegas editor, you might consider picking a camera that records to Sony Broadcast level codecs like XDCAM422-HD, XAVC-I 10bit-4096×2160-60p. This would allow you straight up timeline performance and stability.

    The new Canon 422 codec is basically XDCAM, so that might be a good choice too.

    The old Red One is a not so obvious choice, Vegas supports Redcode native, and the image quality of that camera still surpasses $5K cameras due to the 12-bit capture abilities.

  • Danny Hays

    August 5, 2015 at 11:07 pm

    Are you guys manually white balancing your cameras before you record? If a camera is set to auto white balance and sees a lot of a particular color, like green tablecloths, the camera will compensate and can make that green not look right. My first video camera didn’t have a manual white balance capability and I was getting into chroma keying so I painted a wall in one of the rooms of my old house green. When I video taped me in front of it the green color was probably 75% of the screen and in my video, the green wall look almost gray with a hint of green to it. When I do a multiple camera shoot, I make sure all the cameras are manually white balance at the shoot to a white posterboard. Sometimes it’s not appropriate to be able to put a white posterboard there and I have actually used someone’s white shirt to white balance several cameras. I don’t doubt that even with manual white balancing, the colors may vary from different camera models. I normally use Panasonic TM 700s as they give me a pristine picture for the money.

    Danny Hays
    Samples of my Work can be seen here:
    https://www.youtube.com/user/ErnestDaniels/videos

  • David Shirey

    August 11, 2015 at 7:35 pm

    [Danny Hays] “Are you guys manually white balancing your cameras before you record? If a camera is set to auto white balance and sees a lot of a particular color, like green tablecloths, the camera will compensate and can make that green not look right.”

    I most definitely manually white balance. Trust me it’s not like the whole image is off, it’s just that one type of fabric for like 5 years straight. Didn’t do it on our old Sony DSR-300’s in the mid-2000’s. There’s just something about that one tablecloth that the chips in the pwm ex1’s didn’t like. Not the end of the world, and unless you had a second camera of a different make you’d have nothing to compare it to, so people watching the video 10 years from now won’t be upset.

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