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  • OT: streaming an edit session

    Posted by Mauricio Lleras on November 15, 2019 at 12:24 am

    Hello to you all,
    I’m currently cutting a feature film across countries
    and travelling has become difficult for both me and the director,
    so looking for viable options to share my edit session with the director.
    Anyone tried this recently and care to comment?
    Seems like skype and zoom could work?
    Heard also about Evercast which is the fancy solution
    but this being a low budget indie film I’m not sure
    they would go for it…
    Would love to get all your thoughts and recommendations on this!
    Thanks

    James Culbertson replied 6 years, 5 months ago 9 Members · 17 Replies
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  • Michael Gissing

    November 15, 2019 at 3:12 am

    Resolve lets you share timelines and projects across the internet. I’ve not used it but I know the functionality exists. It also enables VFX, colorist & sound post people to collaborate as well so grades can be built during the edit etc.

    Not sure how AVID collaboration works. There may be a way to make hack an FCPX collaboration but my understanding is it is not designed like AVID & Resolve for that.

  • Mark Suszko

    November 15, 2019 at 5:50 pm

    BITD, this was a feature built into Apple computers.

    One of the methods used today is to send proxies to the client any way you can, be it by courier or file transfer – then, you only need to exchange updated project files each day, which are small.

    There are several third-party apps specifically designed to let you work in realtime with the client seeing what you’re doing and even making notations in the program that stay with the EDL. They require a pretty fast connection speed to work well.

    I think I’d hate that for anything but near-final tweaks of something. My regular clients all gave p sitting in with me years ago, they say: “we know how you work and we rust your judgement – just send us your best final version and we’ll critique that” – and they leave it largely up to my judgement. You can have this kind of relationship if you build the trust up front.

  • Mauricio Lleras

    November 15, 2019 at 6:42 pm

    Thanks for your replies Mark.
    I’m not looking for collaboration tools, just want the director to see
    what I’m doing in realtime.
    He also has a copy of the media and project so I can send it
    and he can easily relink and watch if he needs to review
    in better quality, but that is also slower and doesn’t allow
    for instant feedback and a fluid conversation to get going.
    This is a very different process from that of client reviews in corporate work,
    which it seems is what you do if I’m not mistaken?
    Here we need to watch, tweak and reflect together on the different paths
    we can take at any given point; it is also true it’s the directors’ first film
    and we are at an advanced stage of the edit
    so we need to work together.
    Hence the question about streaming the actual edit session
    and feeding him my audio and video.
    Heard about zoom, skype and evercast
    and was hoping to get some feedback from people having tried it recently.
    I actually did it myself through skype a couple years ago
    and although it was workable it quickly became a hassle.
    Was wondering about recent progress in the area…

  • Michael Hancock

    November 15, 2019 at 7:45 pm

    I talked with an editor that was testing this:

    https://premierebro.com/premiere-in-post/xtrmx-edix-remote-editing-panel-for-adobe-premiere-pro

    He had great things to say about it, but it looks like their website is down. Might be worth trying to contact them and look into it. I believe it does exactly what you want – you edit and the director/producer can review what you’re doing remotely, and are able to see your timeline and watch the edit in realtime.

    Also, it may be Premiere only.

    —————-
    Michael Hancock
    Editor

  • Craig Seeman

    November 15, 2019 at 10:25 pm

    Perhaps NDI Cloud?
    NDI Scanconvertor to grab the screen.
    NDI Cloud Scroll down to the bottom of page to example uses for Video specifically.
    to NDI Monitor on the viewing end

  • Mark Suszko

    November 15, 2019 at 10:39 pm

    What about extensions like frame io?

    https://frame.io/fcpx

  • Craig Seeman

    November 16, 2019 at 1:55 am

    Frame.io doesn’t stream live. You can upload for review though. I do and my clients still insist on sending me changes via Text or Facebook Messenger.

  • Jari Innanen

    November 17, 2019 at 5:28 pm

    You can share your screen via iMessage. I’ve done it many times and it works great with FCP X.

  • Craig Seeman

    November 17, 2019 at 6:12 pm

    [Jari Innanen] “You can share your screen via iMessage”

    I assume you mean Facetime. iMessage is now Messages and it’s not live which is what the OP seems to want. Facetime would require the recipient to be on Mac (or iOS) I think.

  • Bill Davis

    November 17, 2019 at 11:28 pm

    Skype does this pretty reliably.

    Live screen sharing is found under the “three dots” icon when you’re inside a video call.

    As always, your internet bandwitdth and the stability of the connection on both ends effects the quality of the image you send and the overall success of passing real-time frames. But with a good connection it can be very effective.

    Good luck.

    Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
    The shortest path to FCP X mastery.

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