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  • Walter Soyka

    June 27, 2016 at 10:57 am

    I think that FCP X’s media management system is very similar to Smoke’s:

    FCPX native media = Smoke’s soft-imported media
    FCPX optimized media = Smoke’s hard-imported, cached (or “stonified”) media
    FCPX proxy = Smoke’s proxy

    Smoke has had proxies since 2003 [link], and background processing (including background proxy generation) since 2006 [link]. Smoke/Flame proxies are like a setting or a mode, not separate media which needs to be relinked; FCPX proxies works much the same way.

    Smoke/Flame have also had what FCP users used to call “picon scrubbing” as a major feature of daily workflow since dinosaurs roamed the earth. This is not quite the skimmer nor hover scrub, but it might well be their dad.

    Walter Soyka
    Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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  • Walter Soyka

    June 27, 2016 at 1:54 pm

    Also, not an NLE, but After Effects pioneered resolution independence and had proxies back in 1994. They were linked, but unmanaged, and a single click toggles the proxy on a footage item (clip) level.

    Walter Soyka
    Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    @keenlive   |   RenderBreak [blog]   |   Profile [LinkedIn]

  • Bill Davis

    June 27, 2016 at 9:35 pm

    It’s official then. Elon Musk is nothing more than a crass copycat because Oxcarts had wheels in the 13th century.

    Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
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  • Charlie Austin

    June 27, 2016 at 10:21 pm

    [Bill Davis] “It’s official then. Elon Musk is nothing more than a crass copycat because Oxcarts had wheels in the 13th century.”

    You can do better than that cheap straw man comeback Bill. Use facts. And while you’re at it, google “Observational Selection.” 🙂

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  • Tim Wilson

    June 27, 2016 at 11:21 pm

    [Charlie Austin] “You can do better than that cheap straw man comeback Bill.”

    Dammit, THAT’s what I should have renamed this forum. “Straw Man or Not: The Debate.”

    [Bill Davis] “It’s official then. Elon Musk is nothing more than a crass copycat because Oxcarts had wheels in the 13th century.”

    The “crass copycat” part would only be if Elon insisted that HE invented wheels for oxcarts. But of course, he never claimed anything of the sort.

    Actually, I was just thinking about Elon the other day, as I tend to do, and realizing that, rather than the futurist that other people claim on his behalf, he’s an old-school industrialist. The heart of what he’s doing — cars, batteries, rocket ships — has been around since before any of us were born. Even geezers as old as us! LOL

    Elon’s innovations are mostly along the lines of fit and finish, economies of scale, and business acumen profound enough to merit being called revolutionary — but an inventor? Not so far. Has he claimed that he is? Not that I can remember.

    For that matter, he made his first fortune on a way for people to exchange money. Been going on since long before the 13th century. So was taking a slice for facilitating the transfer of funds.

    Anyway, with every function that Walter notes above, he’s not refuting any of Apple’s claims. Apple didn’t make any claims about getting there first.

    See also: multicam, MP3 players, phones, using phones for payment, watches, cars, streaming music, multimedia appliances, personal computers with graphic interfaces. Apple didn’t get there first with any of this, and didn’t claim to. Apple’s customers claim it, brandishing torches, pitchforks, and adrenaline in comments strings across the interwebs.

    Not to say that Apple hasn’t iterated some stuff in such a way that honestly does deserve to be called revolutionary over the years. Of course they have. But let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Or of Apple.

  • Walter Soyka

    June 28, 2016 at 10:41 am

    [Bill Davis] “It’s official then. Elon Musk is nothing more than a crass copycat because Oxcarts had wheels in the 13th century.”

    There is plenty in FCP X that is innovative. Proxy workflows aren’t. I know that great artists steal and all that, but laying claim to a proxy workflow that might well have been originated by Discreet, branding it “X thinking,” and then accusing Adobe of being a great artist vis-a-vis Apple strikes me as a bit disingenuous.

    I see this “only Apple innovates” fallacy pop up here from time to time. Innovation is not exclusive to any one individual or company. Recognizing someone else’s innovation, as I’m trying to do here, in no way diminishes Apple’s — FCP X has a lot that makes it unique — and vice versa. Borrowing your analogy above, Discreet, ever ahead of their time, invented electric carts in 1203.

    Walter Soyka
    Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    @keenlive   |   RenderBreak [blog]   |   Profile [LinkedIn]

  • Herb Sevush

    June 28, 2016 at 3:41 pm

    [Trevor Asquerthian] “Audio Track Mixer | FX | Amplitude & Compression | Dynamics – I don’t know anyway of storing a compressor setup once tweaked”

    Can’t seem to do it with the effects that come with premiere, but can definitely do it with third party VST plug-ins. This company makes a batch of free audio plug-ins as a come on to get you to purchase their larger set of plug ins – their compressor is better than what comes with Ppro and you can save pre-sets inside of Ppro.

    https://www.meldaproduction.com/product/keyword?keyword=free

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
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  • Charlie Austin

    June 28, 2016 at 4:24 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “Can’t seem to do it with the effects that come with premiere, but can definitely do it with third party VST plug-ins. This company makes a batch of free audio plug-ins as a come on to get you to purchase their larger set of plug ins”

    The fact that one needs to rely on 3rd parties to get this type of function in an NLE is so unprofessional!

    I’m KIDDING! 🙂

    Thanks for the link Herb, nice set of freebies and a nice addition to Pr. 🙂

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    ~I still need to play Track Tetris sometimes. An old game that you can never win~
    ~\”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented\”~

  • Herb Sevush

    June 28, 2016 at 4:34 pm

    [Charlie Austin] “The fact that one needs to rely on 3rd parties to get this type of function in an NLE is so unprofessional!”

    I’ll tell you what’s a PITA in Ppro – that while you can save presets for EFX, especially video EFX, there is no way to save presets, or defaults, for video transitions. I have certain video transitions that are part of the look of the show and I have to go in and tweak every parameter every time — grrrr, makes me think of switching to X ….

    I’m KIDDING! 🙂

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
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    nothin\’ attached to nothin\’
    \”Deciding the spine is the process of editing\” F. Bieberkopf

  • Charlie Austin

    June 28, 2016 at 5:22 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “I have certain video transitions that are part of the look of the show and I have to go in and tweak every parameter every time — grrrr, makes me think of switching to X ….”

    lol… no need to switch, just use whatever works. 🙂 And while you can of course have a default transitions in X, the only way to save “custom” transitions is to create them in Motion. It’s a very cool way of doing it, but do I miss the quick FCP 7 drag transition to favorites folder method when I’m in a hurry. Which is always…

    Now saving Effects presets in X made from any combination of Video Effects and Transform Parameters? Very nice.

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    ~ My FCPX Babbling blog ~
    ~\”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.\”~
    ~I still need to play Track Tetris sometimes. An old game that you can never win~
    ~\”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented\”~

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