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  • Jeremy Garchow

    July 29, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    [Daniel Ludwig] “calculate the discs that would be needed to replace ONE tandberg 50TB LTO! ;)”

    Eleventy billion

  • Gary Huff

    July 29, 2013 at 9:15 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “A current 2.5 min project I am working on has over 7TBs of footage. This is for one measly video.”

    Blackmagic CC footage?

  • Jeremy Garchow

    July 29, 2013 at 9:46 pm

    No, there is hardly any new footage, actually.

    It is nearly 60 years of footage from various sources from Film to VHS, HD, to SD and below, that is now all ProRes…

    …For a 3 minute piece. I am editor, here me roar, (while I cry).

  • Richard Herd

    July 30, 2013 at 12:43 am

    [Jeremy Garchow] “especially having something that is bondable and recognized by insurance companies”

    Can you explain more about this (or post a link)? thanks!

  • Jeremy Garchow

    July 30, 2013 at 2:24 am

    LTO, in certain situations (film industry for the purposes of this thread), is insurable, in that in order to get insurance for your production, you have to have media backed up to LTO.

    I don’t have any links handy, but I’m sure you could find some, and if you deal with insurance companies that will insure all facets of a production, it would require a phone call to an agent.

  • Richard Herd

    July 30, 2013 at 4:28 am


    Got an agent, needed the right question.

    Thanks again!

  • Daniel Ludwig

    July 30, 2013 at 5:37 am

    LTO and film roles are insurable, good “old fashioned” tapes as well – harddiscs are not, as far as I have been told.


  • Jeremy Garchow

    July 30, 2013 at 12:41 pm

    [Daniel Ludwig] “LTO and film roles are insurable, good “old fashioned” tapes as well – harddiscs are not, as far as I have been told.

    I think it’s wholly dependent on the policy. Some require multiple hard dive and LTO, but yes, typically hard drive only backups will not be covered.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    July 30, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    By the way, if you haven’t read this article, it’s a nice glimpse into archiving on a relatively large scale and how LTO seems to be shaking out for some folks, especially with the advent of LTO5 and LTFS.

    There’s a healthy discussion that involves archiving and LTO by way of digital acquisition from HBO’s perspective:

  • Craig Seeman

    July 30, 2013 at 2:48 pm

    I think this RedShark article gives more clues


    On the Sony format I had linked to.
    Each disc within the cartridge holds 25GB capacity, offering a total range of storage capacities from 300GB to 1.5TB.

    On Panasonic’s format
    In July this year, Panasonic launched its ‘LB-DM9 series’ of optical disc storage devices. This series uses a dedicated magazine of just 20.8mm thickness to house twelve 100GB optical discs. A maximum of 90 magazines can be stored, providing a total storage capacity of 180TB. In addition,

    And what this is about
    will target the development of an optical disc with recording capacity of at least 300GB by the end of 2015. Going forward, Sony and Panasonic will continue to hold discussions regarding the specifications and other items relating to the development of this new standard.

    So if they’re referring to a 300GB vs 25GB (Sony) or 100GB (Panasonic) Then a twelve disc magazine would be 36TB rather than Sony’s 1.5TB mac I linked to. The new format might be competitive to LTO depending on price. Consider what the capacity would be with Panasonic’s 90 magazine device. This would be the “Professional” system.

    The subsequent “consumer” version would probably be the 300GB replacement to the 25GB Blu-ray disc for 4k movies.

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