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OT Resolve 14
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I was putting it off too. It’s much more nimble now. I got a pretty full demo on the NAB floor, and the sluggishness problems seem to be gone. It was running well on an iMac.
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[Ricardo Marty] “Wonder what’s happening in the minds of the powers that be at adobe or avid?”
We are learning to edit on Resolve, that’s what.
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[andy patterson] “It makes the offerings from Apple look like a lesser product as well. You forgot to mention that. How come? “
I think Apple gets a pass from ‘needing to worry’ because Apple doesn’t need the creative market in order to keep the lights on. Adobe and Avid, on the other hand, do so a race-to-the-bottom software price war could impact Adobe and Avid greatly yet not impact Apple at all. I mean, Apple could start selling X for $0.99 and the overall revenue drop would probably be a fraction of a percent to Apple’s overall bottom line.
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The timeline comparison tool at 9:50 looks a lot like pancake editing. I would like to add people are excited about the new audio capabilities in DaVinci Resolve (DR). I am not saying the audio capabilities of Premiere Pro are as good as Davinic Resolve I am saying the GUI looks familiar. I don’t doubt with DR you can have tracks on the bottom and the mixer above. With Premiere you can have the audio mixer to the left side the right side or stacked above. I imagine both DR and Premiere will allow for a total customized layout yet Premiere gets bashed for having a cringe worthy GUI. Wouldn’t DR’s audio editing GUI be cringe worthy? How you can go from a video editing GUI to an audio editing GUI and then to a color grading GUI in DR reminds me of Premiere Pro. I am not saying the color grading capabilities of Premiere Pro are as good I am saying the workflow is very similar. A simple click of the mouse and you have a totally different GUI geared towards the task at hand. I should also add that DR uses tracks. Premiere Pro gets bashed for using tracks. There are a lot of similarities between DR and Premiere Pro as one should expect. I wonder if BMD is thinking about developing a photo/graphic design program? Having said that I can only hope BMD will force Adobe to drop the price of the CC membership to $14.99 a month. Adobe cannot ignore what the competition has to offer for video editiors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL3gaLiezZA
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[any paterson]” I am not saying the audio capabilities of Premiere Pro are as good as Davinic Resolve I am saying the GUI looks familiar.”
The GUI is a blend of Resolve’s look and Fairlight’s GUI but what Fairlight brings is a vast improvement over any NLE’s audio. We are talking about a 1000 track DAW with multiple bussing with bus formats from 3D, Dolby Atmos, 22.2, 7.1, 5.1 etc all with the ability to fold down formats to produce multiple deliverables – all controlled by total automation of everything including VST plugins. It allows clip stacking on tracks, full EQ and dynamics processing on everything. Don’t judge it by the GUI.
When you realise that the dedicated controller and mix panels are also part of Fairlight inside Resolve and the fact that Resolve removes the whole round tripping that many of us currently use then you begin to understand how significant this is. An NLE and grade/ finishing tool that for the first time ever includes audio facility for any level of program making including cinema.
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[Michael Gissing] “[any paterson]” I am not saying the audio capabilities of Premiere Pro are as good as Davinic Resolve I am saying the GUI looks familiar.”
The GUI is a blend of Resolve’s look and Fairlight’s GUI but what Fairlight brings is a vast improvement over any NLE’s audio. We are talking about a 1000 track DAW with multiple bussing with bus formats from 3D, Dolby Atmos, 22.2, 7.1, 5.1 etc all with the ability to fold down formats to produce multiple deliverables – all controlled by total automation of everything including VST plugins. It allows clip stacking on tracks, full EQ and dynamics processing on everything. Don’t judge it by the GUI.”
You totally missed the point I was making. I even stated I am not saying Premiere’s audio capabilities are as good as DR. I was pointing out the GUI looks similar. The GUI of Premiere Pro gets bashed all the time and it does look like DR has a pancake editing mode. It sucked when Premiere had it but now pancake editing will be cool. My comments are about the GUI only not the capabilities. Having said that Premiere Pro’s audio mixer does do surround sound very similar to DR and did it back in Premiere Pro 1.0. You can ad EQ effects to Premire Pro’s audio board as well. As I stated I know DR has better audio capabilities. The Lumetri Panel in Premiere Pro is good but there are some cool things DR has that Premiere’s Lumetri panel lacks. As I stated I am talking about the GUI not the capabilities.
[Michael Gissing] “When you realise that the dedicated controller and mix panels are also part of Fairlight inside Resolve and the fact that Resolve removes the whole round tripping that many of us currently use then you begin to understand how significant this is. An NLE and grade/ finishing tool that for the first time ever includes audio facility for any level of program making including cinema.”
Did you actually read my post? Did I say Premiere Pro has better audio capabilites than DR? I did no such thing. I am talking only about the GUI not the capabilities. I am fully aware that DR makes good use of BMD hardware for color grading as well. Having said that I like BMD. I like their cameras, their ATEM products, their capture cards etc. In case you don’t know it I have a BMD Intensity Shuttle. I have been to BMD’s website many times looking at all their products. I am well aware of Blackmagic Design and their products but my comment was about the GUI similarities between DR and Premiere Pro. That is not to say that Avid and DR don’t have similarities as well. For some reason Avid and Adobe get bashed but BMD does not. I doubt anyone is going to say the pancake editing mode of DR is stupid even though they say it about Premiere Pro. Do you think anyone is going to say DR’s GUI is cringe worthy even though the GUI is very similar to Premiere Pro? I am not talking about capabilities only the GUI. Do you see my point?
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[andy patterson]”I am not talking about capabilities only the GUI. Do you see my point?”
Yes. And did you get my point that capabilities plus dedicated controllers are actually what matters. I get you are upset that people criticise a GUI and use it to diss an NLE. GUI matters but capability matters more as long as the GUI doesn’t get totally in the way.
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I can’t wait to test this out.
But I always fear this app will be bloated as versions go.
Then what?
They release a stand-alone grading app 🙂
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[Eric Santiago] “They release a stand-alone grading app :)”
Yep:
https://youtu.be/s2xNwjNRJLg?t=1m36s
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[Michael Gissing] “Yes. And did you get my point that capabilities plus dedicated controllers are actually what matters. I get you are upset that people criticise a GUI and use it to diss an NLE. GUI matters but capability matters more as long as the GUI doesn’t get totally in the way.”
Main page GUI may look similar – and in Premiere it looks a lot better than it used to – but Fairlight is very different from Premiere Pro and from DaVinci own audio engine for that matter. Fairlight was made by audio people. The understanding of the audio workflow is different, more in line with Pro Tools and Nuendo. I hope that Blackmagic will be able to replace DaVinci audio with Fairlight completely.
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