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OT: NIKON enters the video battle field.
Posted by Rafael Amador on January 7, 2012 at 1:09 amA clean uncompressed HDMI out (that not other HDSLR seems to offer) is a good point to start:
https://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/01/06/NikonD4launched
rafael
Craig Seeman replied 14 years, 3 months ago 8 Members · 16 Replies -
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Steve Connor
January 7, 2012 at 1:24 amQuite a demo film too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dCQ9ME2OLw8
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Lance Bachelder
January 7, 2012 at 1:50 amAnxious to see how good it is recording into something like the KiPro – will it be a game changer or another nice try at video for Nikon? Hoping for the best…
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Craig Seeman
January 7, 2012 at 5:04 pmI wonder how it deals with the “line skipping” that DSLRs have to deal with when recording video which results in aliasing and moire.
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Steve Connor
January 7, 2012 at 5:07 pm[Craig Seeman] “I wonder how it deals with the “line skipping” that DSLRs have to deal with when recording video which results in aliasing and moire.”
Have you watched the video I linked? Not much moire and aliasing apparent in the 1080 version of it, I know it’s a promo but there are some shots in there that a 5D would have problems with
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Craig Seeman
January 7, 2012 at 5:12 pm[Steve Connor] “I know it’s a promo”
Just me, but I don’t trust promo videos since they deliberate skirt issues and/or know how to shoot around limitations.
I’m looking forward to some “real world” testing by human DPs.
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Franz Bieberkopf
January 7, 2012 at 6:13 pmCraig,
I thought the crop feature on that camera looked interesting in that it seems to imply that at full crop there is no line-skipping. That might be over-interpretation on my part but I immediately wondered about the implications for moire. (Certainly not an ideal solution, but it is the first thing I thought of).
Franz.
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Rafael Amador
January 7, 2012 at 6:51 pmNo need for lines skipping having a good processor.
Moire is a different issue and can be only avoided by reducing horizontal definition in the areas that produce it.
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Gary Huff
January 7, 2012 at 8:07 pmI think we’re done with line-skipping. The GH2 has a better way to downscale the image information from the sensor, I bet the Nikon has something similar, and I bet the next generation of Canon DSLRs won’t have that issue either.
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Alan Lacey
January 8, 2012 at 11:40 amAs a complete ignoramous here will somebody describe and explain line skipping to me. I have no experience of editing DSLR material.
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Craig Seeman
January 8, 2012 at 3:05 pmThe sensors on DSLRS are much larger (more lines/pixels) than would normally be used in 1920×1080. So the “real time” way to downscale in camera for video was to skip lines. That would be havoc for diagonal lines or subjects with fine patterns. The tech challenge is how to design a camera that can be used by still photographers who need frame sizes much larger than video and, at the same time, allow for clean real time downconversion for video HD frame size.
If Nikon found an answer I’d love to read about the explanation. It could be filtering for example.
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