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  • OT: DVDSP question

    Posted by Paul Nevison on February 24, 2006 at 5:24 pm

    I know this isnt the DVDSP forum….but to be honest that forum is a bit of a ghost town with not many people throwing out their 2 cents worth!

    so that’s why I’m asking fellow editors about buttons in DVDSP 4….

    is there a way to make the buttons invisible until you either click on them with the arrow keys on the remote or hover your cursor over if playing on a computer.

    I’ve been looking for an answer to this for 4 days and the manual is sadly ever so general.

    any help to put me out of my misery and help me to reach my deadline of today….would be greeted with much gratitude…

    righto

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    Paul Nevison replied 20 years, 2 months ago 5 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Shawn6432

    February 24, 2006 at 8:22 pm

    Yes, set the normal state of the buttons to be completely transparent (0% opacity).

  • Paul Nevison

    February 24, 2006 at 9:12 pm

    thanks for that..i have tried that and it doesnt seem to want to work….maybe i should try trashing the dvdsp prefs…..

    thanks for the reply though….ive been going slightly crazy trying to get this to work!

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  • Arnie Schlissel

    February 24, 2006 at 9:32 pm

    [paul nevison] “I’ve been looking for an answer to this for 4 days and the manual is sadly ever so general.”

    This is in the manual. Sometimes you have to dig a little deeper with the resources you have at hand. Look things up in the index or on the online help.

    Arnie
    https://www.arniepix.com

  • Paul Nevison

    February 24, 2006 at 9:39 pm

    I’m all for reading the manual and doing all your own research before asking questions and as such i have been pouring over the manual of an app that i have only ever previously used for client viewing etc (never for a fully fledged DVD release)…..and trawling the net….the suggested solution just isnt working, it’s the one i tried first when i read it in the manual, i’ve tried various incarnations and on my machine it just doesnt want to do what it’s supposed to do.

    when i pull the opacity down to zero the colour disappears but the actual button stays visible….

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  • Shawn6432

    February 24, 2006 at 9:49 pm

    Yes, reducing the opacity to 0% will eliminate the color, which is the button. Your background will be unaffected.

  • Paul Nevison

    February 24, 2006 at 10:03 pm

    what i actually am trying to do is for the shape (button) to be completely invisible until is selected not just the highlight colour. is this possible by using the standard apple shapes or is this a feature of layered buttons etc…

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  • Arnie Schlissel

    February 24, 2006 at 10:13 pm

    You cannot do that with shapes. You either need to use a layered menu or you may be able to use advanced overlays if your graphics are simple enough. Both are covered in the manual.

    Arnie
    https://www.arniepix.com

  • Tim Vaughan

    February 24, 2006 at 10:19 pm

    Here is the best way, from what I have found. I go a little in depth, but it has produced the best and most perfect results for what I’ve needed to do. (I do not know why very little of this procedure is actually covered in manuels and books)

    Create a menu in motion, after effects, FCP, –whatever you prefer. Make you movie, and insert the text for your menu (play all, scene selection..etc) at a specific point in time. (Say you want the text/button to appear 10 seconds in to your video, insert them at 10 seconds.) Once the movie is where you want it, and the text appears when you want it, render out the movie.
    In DVD Studio Pro, import the finished movie as an asset. Place the movie in the menu as a background object. Now, set your loop point a little after when the text appears. (We will change this later, but for ease of work, do this) Go to your shapes tab, and place the shape of your choice (button, arrow, whatever you prefer) in the place where your text is. (Example: Place the arrow shape directly before the Play All text or the underline shape directly beneath your text) Now add the property value to that button. (Click on the button, and choose the target for the appropriate track, menu, or action.
    Now, set your loop point to 10 seconds (or whichever time you have chosen for your text to appear) When you click the simulate button, the menu should begin playing. At 10 seconds (or the time you have chosen), the button should appear.
    If you want to move a step further, you may create a script as well. (Right click in the Outline tab, and choose Add–>Script. Double click that script, and it will open the script editor. Click on the script command–by default, it will read Nop. In the script command window, you should see “command” and a drop down box. Click the drop down box and choose Jump. The box will reveal a new set of commands, and you will choose Jump To–>Menu 1 (You may choose menu 1, or another menu, track, etc for your own prefs.). Now click on the button a little further down labeled “Start at Loop Point” .
    Now, click on the Outline tab and choose your top level disk name (has the icon of the DVD disk beside it. By default, it is named UNTITLED_DISK until you name your project). Under title in the disc editor, you will be able to choose the script you just made. What this does is allow your user to bypass the 1st 10 seconds (Intro section of your DVD) and start at the loop point, where your text appears. I am doing this from memory, so if you have any questions, I may be able to actually open the project and help you out. Send me an e-mail to TVaughan@TrizonFilms.com and I’ll try my best to help ya!

    Thanks
    Tim

    Tim

  • Paul Nevison

    February 24, 2006 at 10:26 pm

    thanks tim,

    i will try this out and drop you a line to let you know how i get on.

    thanks for taking the time….maybe you could get a job rewriting the manual 🙂

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  • Walter Biscardi

    February 25, 2006 at 1:23 pm

    [paul nevison] “I know this isnt the DVDSP forum….but to be honest that forum is a bit of a ghost town with not many people throwing out their 2 cents worth!”

    I’ve gotten some good answers off that forum and we also have a DVD Authoring Forum which also has answered some DVDSP questions for me.

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