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  • OT – Academic@$899 upgradeable?

    Posted by Steven Gonzales on July 30, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    Does anyone have a definitive answer whether Final Cut Pro Academic is upgradeable? An Apple Rep for our school said yes, but I don’t trust any info from him.

    I need to tell dozens of incoming students to buy the new Final Cut Studio, and if there is only $100 difference between Academic and Retail, I need to know if the Academic is now upgradeable, because if it isn’t, I might just have them buy the non-academic.

    Thanks for any info.

    Steven Gonzales replied 16 years, 9 months ago 5 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Steve Eisen

    July 30, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    Academic and NFR versions are NOT upgradable. Spend the extra $100 and you won’t have to spend an additional $999 down the road.

    Steve Eisen
    Eisen Video Productions
    Board of Directors
    Chicago Final Cut Pro Users Group

  • Steven Gonzales

    July 30, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    I wonder if there has been a change of heart, because otherwise the pricing scheme makes no sense. $100 discount is not worth losing the ability to upgrade.

    I read the new software license included with the product, and there is no mention of upgrade policy.

    The language about academic is this:

    ***Academic Copies: If the Apple Software package has an academic label or if you acquired the Apple Software at an academic discount, you must be an Eligible Educational End User to use the Apple Software. “Eligible Educational End Users” means students, faculty, staff and administration attending and/or working at an educational institutional facility (i.e., college campus, public or private K-12 schools).***

    and the language about upgrades is this:

    ***Updates: If an Apple Software update completely replaces (full install) a previously licensed version of the Apple Software, you may not use both versions of the Apple Software at the same time nor may you transfer them separately.***

    So I tend to agree, that the policy is probably what it has always been, which makes no sense anymore with such a small discount.

    However, my official apple rep answer the question like this:

    “The $899 version WOULD allow upgrades down the road.”

    So that makes more sense, but I haven’t found written confirmation of his statement.

  • Steve Eisen

    July 30, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    Of course it’s upgradable. You just have to pay the Full Price instead of an Upgrade Price.

    Steve Eisen
    Eisen Video Productions
    Board of Directors
    Chicago Final Cut Pro Users Group

  • Ernie Santella

    July 30, 2009 at 4:01 pm

    MacMall has the full version discounted for $899. right now.

    Ernie Santella
    Santella Productions Inc.
    http://www.santellaproductions.com

  • Steven Gonzales

    July 30, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    Here’s the current policy, on the Final Cut Studio page:

    “Academic and Not-For-Resale (NFR) versions are not eligible for upgrade.”

    So previous they were not upgradeable — full price just bought you a new license, which replaced the academic license that you were no longer qualified to use.

  • Paolo Mugnaini

    July 30, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    This is all confusing because if that’s the case, how did we upgrade in our school from FCS1 to FCS2? We did it by buying the upgrade and installing it.

    Now when you install it your software will still be Academic. Things may changed now but that’s what we have done in the past.

    What I believe is that you cannot upgrade from Academic to Full version.

  • Craig Shields

    July 30, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    Remember when the went to FCS2 they allowed everyone and everything to upgrade to the full version. People were running out to the Apple store and buying copies of Soundtrack and Motion to upgrade to the full version for $299. I even upgraded an academic version of FCP for 299. That’s why you were able to do it then. My understanding was they were doing it to control piracy but I’m not totally sure on that.

  • Paolo Mugnaini

    July 30, 2009 at 6:08 pm

    Maybe but we upgraded to FCS2 academic.

    FCP 5.1.4 – PowerMac 2.2 Dual – 4.5 Gb Ram
    1Tb G-Raid2 – 2 1Tb Lacies- CUBASE SX3

  • Steven Gonzales

    July 30, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    I think there is a different policy for institutions, and site licenses for institutional copies.

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