OT: A sad state of affairs

[Will Salley]

Consider the source.

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[Walter Biscardi]

[Chris Poisson] “This NYTimes article should be of interest to those who feel Apple is maybe selling us out. By us of course, I mean people in the production business.”

Just another corporate story really, Steve Jobs is not the first to be accused of this and certainly won’t be the last. Hell I’m more shocked at Bob Nardelli who was essentially fired from Home Depot but walks away with a $200+ million buyout. Not bad, you’re fired but you get $200 mil to walk away.

It’s just corporate america completely out of control

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[Walter Biscardi]

[Will Salley] “Consider the source.”

As someone who used to work at CNN, I hate comments like this. If you don’t agree with a newspaper or news station, then don’t watch it. In the case of this article, it’s an opinion piece so not everyone will agree with it.

News is news, opinions are opinions, but the only time I “consider the source” is blogs and non-established news agencies.

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[Boyd Mccollum]

[Chris Poisson] “who feel Apple is maybe selling us out.”

how is this Apple selling us out? It’s Apple compensating their CEO. It’s done all the time and it’s not necessarily illegal or even unethical. The article you point to is an opinion piece by some guy whining about Dems getting a pass where Reps don’t. And it’s from 2 weeks ago.

Here’s a more current report (took about a minute to Google and then read it).

https://www.infoworld.com/article/07/01/16/HNapplestockoptions_1.html

If something’s wrong, if someone broke the law, then someone may go to jail. But it’s not “selling us out”. Selling us out would be a secret decision to kill FCP, etc. without telling us, so we have incomplete information to make business decision on or platforms and the like.

But if anyone feels strongly that this is unacceptable behavior on Apple’s part and don’t want to deal with them, there’s always Avid 🙂

[Walter Biscardi]

[boydmcc] “The article you point to is an opinion piece by some guy whining about Dems getting a pass where Reps don’t. And it’s from 2 weeks ago.”

“Some Guy” is Ben Stein who at one time worked in government, though most of us know him from Ferris Bueller and “Win Ben Stein’s Money” on Comedy Central. Just an FYI.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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[Tim Baker]

I think the bigger picture is that it is just corporate america being the greedy, smarmy money grubbers that we all know that they all are.

Were it not for these pillars of business we could have had a fully electric car 40+ years ago. Clean air and water for our children to breath and drink. Fewer landfills and soil contamination. And the list goes on.

As to Apple…are we really surprised? Where there is any major amount of money being moved…there are unethical people to move it to their own pockets. Is that selling us out…no…it is just big business being big business. Now if it were to leave us high and dry like an Enron callapse…maybe, but if that were to happen there would be another unethical corporation out there to suck its assets up to keep us alive, because we mean big money to whomever controls what we use.

But be careful here…I think a lot of us…including myself…make a significant amount of our incomes from these corporations, as well. Are we “war profiteers” in the on-going battle against corporate madness? The argument could be made.

Selling us out…No…contributing to the decline of the image of corporate america and its controllers/comptrollers…Yes!!!

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[Chris Poisson]

FWIW I was referring to some recent posts about MacWorld, about which many of you thought Apple’s name change and entry into the phone business is straying away from what we do. I agree with a lot of that, and I thought this article, opinion though it may be, was relevent and interesting.

[Jeff Carpenter]

This is a serious issue and should be investigated stopped at any company it is found at.

I do think, however, that it’s rather disingenuous of Mr. Stein to write that Steve Jobs benefited from this as if that’s a true statement. He was given stock options but they were never cashed and he’s since given them back. He never made anything off of them.

Which is not to excuse the behavior. It WAS wrong and hopefully there will be some sort of punishment rendered for the actions. Attempted wrongdoings should still be punished even if they don’t work out for the perpetrator.

But to write that he benefited when there was actually only the potential for benefit is pretty sloppy even if you are just a commentator and not a reporter.

[Will Salley]

[walter biscardi] “News is news, opinions are opinions, but the only time I “consider the source” is blogs and non-established news agencies”

Walter, So you’re telling us you trust an “op-ed” piece from the New York Times as fact? My reply was simply to say consider the source of the information referenced. Is it accurate or not. Is there a motive? Who knows, maybe Ben Stein has a couple of million Microsoft shares!

I too have worked for several major news franchises and have a B.A. in Journalism, and I know the difference in hypothetical assertion and factual news.

By the way, I’m reading the COW now, should I not read it because I don’t agree with your opinion?

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[Chiahawk]

This is an FCP forum isn’t it?