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“Or Not” was born of the FCP X Launch. So…
Bill Davis replied 10 years, 1 month ago 13 Members · 48 Replies
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Bill Davis
June 4, 2016 at 6:54 pm[Oliver Peters] “What I find interesting is this. If FCPX users were completely happy with what Apple is doing with X, none of them would have any interested in Resolve as an NLE. Clearly that doesn’t appear to be the case. I would think it’s more than just a step back to a traditional source-record-track model. Something definitely is missing in X, even for those who like it a lot.”
Well, lets not overlook at least two of the other HUGE factors.
A – Resolve is not just FREE, it’s bundled with lots of industry sensible BM hardware purchases. (For many of us, reminiscent of how Windows initially took over the personal computing world,)
B – Combined with the fact that currently, Resolve remains an excellent color grading app first, and an NLE second.
It’s pretty hard not to notice that market interest in grading is very much on the rise.
No way to know how “Resolve NLE” would do if it was in direct “pay to play” head to head competition with all the other NLEs.
Also editorial thinking outside of the X camp continues to “think” in the traditional tracks that have been the default mode for the entire history of electronic editing.
Add all that up and IMO, any surprise at the rise of interest in Resolve, would be weird.
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Oliver Peters
June 4, 2016 at 7:34 pm[Bill Davis] “Add all that up and IMO, any surprise at the rise of interest in Resolve, would be weird.”
My only surprise is the rise among FCPX editors, although I might be feeling like there’s more of that than there really is.
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Bill Davis
June 4, 2016 at 8:15 pm[Oliver Peters] “My only surprise is the rise among FCPX editors, although I might be feeling like there’s more of that than there really is.”
Or it might be a tiny bit harder to notice here on the Cow…
The simple metrics of the site are pretty stark as to coverage branding if you just scan the surface…
If you put the board in “alphabetical” sort and look at the brand coverage…
19 Adobe Topics
7 Apple (3 just Legacy – 1 Motion)
3 Black Magic
1 AVIDEven bigger contrast if you sort by categories…
39 forums with Adobe in the title
16 with Apple (half of them for deprecated products)
8 with BlackMagic.
2 for AVIDTotally fair observation could be made that the difference simply reflects the reality of the wide scope of the Adobe offerings.
But if you’re looking for someplace to get your car fixed, if the preponderance of the signs are all about Chevy Branded services – and you don’t drive a Chevy – it kinda does send a pretty clear signal about the shop focus. That they have Ford or Fiat badges mixed in, might be enough to make you feel at home. But you kinda know that’s not where this particular shop is focused. Consider that here on the Cow, visitors get a custom place to discuss Prelude and SpeedGrade, but nowhere to discuss Compressor?
Maybe it’s just because Compressor isn’t complex enough to to generate the traffic to deserve a separate forum. Nothing wrong with that.This isn’t a big thing.
It’s completely fair to give people what they’re looking for – and the Adobe CC ecosystem absolutely deserves the coverage (maybe totally NEEDS it considering the complexity of navigating all the various standalone offerings – many of which have very large and “hungry for expertise” constituencies.”
Just noting that there IS a very visible difference.
FWIW.
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Andrew Kimery
June 4, 2016 at 10:41 pm[Bill Davis] “Consider that here on the Cow, visitors get a custom place to discuss Prelude and SpeedGrade, but nowhere to discuss Compressor? “
There used to be many more Apple sections but Apple keeps killing its products, which means discussions about the products eventually die which means the forums eventually go away. BTW, there is a general compression forum at the COW where you can talk about Compressor if you want and if there was enough discussions just about Compressor I’m sure there would be a Compressor forum just like there used to be a Soundtrack Pro forum, a DVD SP forum, a Color forum, an Xsan forum, a LiveType forum, a Shake forum, etc.,.
What would be weird is if Adobe and Apple had the same amount of forums on the COW (or if Apple had more) even though Adobe offers a much broader product line.
In my experience forums (and I mean forums in general, not just the COW) are driven by their users. People will talk about what interests them whether or not there is a specific place to talk about it, and if the talk about a certain subject is frequent enough then a new forum will be made just for that subject. For example, on DVXUser they recently added a Coloring/Grading forum because a user asked for it and enough other users showed support for it. If it gains traction it will stick around but if it’s mostly a ghost town it will eventually disappear. Probably the most germane example for us is this very forum. It didn’t exist until discussions about X started appearing all over the COW and Tim moved them all under one banner. If there was never a debate there never would have been a Debate forum.
[Bill Davis] “But if you’re looking for someplace to get your car fixed, if the preponderance of the signs are all about Chevy Branded services – and you don’t drive a Chevy – it kinda does send a pretty clear signal about the shop focus. “
Or it sends a pretty clear signal that GM just sells cars under a lot of brands. 13 to be exact. Toyota, on the other hand, just has two brands; Toyota and Lexus (Scion is getting absorbed into Toyota). If the shop is open to servicing any make/model of car why would you expect the list of Toyotas to be the same length as the list of GMs?
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Bill Davis
June 5, 2016 at 12:42 am[Andrew Kimery] “There used to be many more Apple sections but Apple keeps killing its products, “
It’s all Apples fault.
Got it.
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Andrew Kimery
June 5, 2016 at 1:06 am[Bill Davis] “It’s all Apples fault.”
Well now that that’s settled… 😉
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Tim Wilson
June 5, 2016 at 8:08 pm[Andrew Kimery] “[Bill Davis] “It’s all Apples fault.”
Well now that that’s settled… ;)”
Are you guys thinking what I’m thinking? NEW FORUM NAME!!!!!!!!!
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Bill Davis
June 5, 2016 at 9:08 pmWhere are my emojis when I really need them?
; )
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