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Optimal DaVinci Mac Setup
Posted by Eddie Kesler on June 2, 2010 at 2:34 pmWe are thinking of purchasing a DaVinci on Mac and outfitting a suite. We plan on using it part-time for editing and FX and part-time for color with the hopes that the color will take off in the long run. I am curious what the optimal setup is on a Mac (which Mac, cards, drives, etc…) Another question I have is will the DaVinci run well on an AJA Kona 3 card and not only on BMD products. I don’t have an issue with BMD and we use one of their routers, but our edit systems use AJA ioHD and it would be great to tie in with our edit systems and have a great uncompressed HD box for an extra FX suite, etc…
Thanks in advance,
EddieKim Krause replied 14 years, 5 months ago 11 Members · 29 Replies -
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Joseph Owens
June 2, 2010 at 7:20 pm[Eddie Kesler] ” will the DaVinci run well on an AJA Kona 3 card and not only on BMD products.”
They say it will eventually, but I sincerely doubt that it will be an option in the first release.
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Peter Chamberlain
June 3, 2010 at 3:12 amBMD are quite willing to support alternative video I/O cards in Resolve. Evidence of which is we already support DVS in the Linux systems. However, we do need the other card manufacturers to provide the SDK so we can control it. If there are other specific cards customers want to use, for example because they work with an editing or compositing application, I recommend chasing the third party card manufacturer and ask them when they will support Resolve. I am happy to discuss implementation with them.
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Margus Voll
June 3, 2010 at 5:50 amHi.
In what point of time we could get optimal system description so we could start
building our systems or rebuilding.Here i mean gonfiguration that works rigth now.
Will there be place where to ask if my multibridge and quadro 4500 work with mac version etc.
Can we get some detailed info or after roadshow ?
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Margus
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Jamie Allan
June 3, 2010 at 8:04 amMost, if not all, of this information should be available at your local roadshow event.
One of the reasons it’s been a bit quiet is that everyone was expecting a refresh of the MacPro this month, but it’s looking more likely to be later – around September possibly.
You can easily spec a system for pricing though, the main components that are required at this stage are – GTX285 or FX4800 GFX cards, BMD Extreme 3D IO cards (As per previous posts, other IO will be supported soon if it doesn’t actually already work) along with a high spec mac pro (2.93Ghz / 12GB RAM+) and storage that will keep up with your desired resolution/frame rate.
If you have more questions feel free to post em up or get registered to an event near you (Or if there isn’t one – contact your local BMD reseller)
Jamie Allan
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Nick Hasson
June 3, 2010 at 4:08 pm[Jamie Allan] “You can easily spec a system for pricing though, the main components that are required at this stage are – GTX285 or FX4800 GFX cards, BMD Extreme 3D IO cards”
I thought that you could use any Decklink extreme card. It did not have to be the new 3d card?
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Alexander Higgins
June 3, 2010 at 6:11 pmHey Peter, this is not good for anyone using AJA products.
DVS is not really in the same category as a consumer card like the KONA3, DVS is well known to give full support to their cards to vendors using them, they sell them like an OEM card. The developers take 100% control. Thats why Filmlight, Autodesk and so many others have used them at one point or another. But, once they hand over that card to those vendors, those vendors have to support the cards. A guy grading on a BASELIGHT will never in a million years call DVS to get support, he calls FILMLIGHT.
So in the case of AJA cards, they are off the shelf cards, consumer cards, if I have a problem with it, I call AJA. It has AJA drivers, AJA utilities.
So if we are getting this information directly from Peter Chamberlain, or the horses mouth, if you will, KONA3 will never be supported on DaVinci. Basically this is that limbo between Pro and Pro-Sumer that kinda screws the users over. FCP works with the AJA KONA3 because Apple lets AJA work with Apple to develop proper drivers etc.
If Peter is asking AJA to give them the SDK for an off the shelf KONA3 card, that is not going to happen. It sounds like for AJA cards to work with DaVinci, Blackmagic would have to buy the OEM KONA3 cards, then devlop the drivers themselves. AJA being direct competition to Blackmagic, I don’t see this happening.
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Ola Haldor voll
June 3, 2010 at 7:20 pmI’ve seen in writing and heard from a BMD rep at NAB in several videos that Decklink HD Extreme is supported, and I would think the others in this price range is too.
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Joseph Owens
June 3, 2010 at 11:30 pm[Ola Haldor Voll] “I’ve seen in writing and heard from a BMD rep at NAB in several videos that Decklink HD Extreme is supported, and I would think the others in this price range is too”
There is so much mis- and dis-information at NAB, that it is almost counterproductive to go.
If a reseller is specifying particular configurations, its because they’re going with what they know will work. All the rest is throwing the dice.As far as that comment about…. “as soon as AJA provides us with their SDK” goes… this is exactly what I was afraid of.
jPo
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Alexander Higgins
June 4, 2010 at 2:32 am[Joseph Owens] As far as that comment about…. “as soon as AJA provides us with their SDK” goes… this is exactly what I was afraid of.
I think BlackMagic will say, “AJA won’t give us the SDK!” But AJA doesn’t give the SDK for the KONA3. You can buy their OEM cards and write your own drivers, thats all they offer.
Smooth ploy by BlackMagic to get everyone to buy their hardware. Their is a reason that I chosen AJA since my first IO, the IO HD, and my KONA3 stations, and making everyone buy BlackMagic hardware is not going to make BlackMagic hardware quality any better.
Anyway, maybe its no big deal for some, their cards are cheap and if you make your DaVinci a Turnkey, then its not that big of a deal, but I wouldn’t want to give my KONA3 in FCP Studio.
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Margus Voll
June 4, 2010 at 5:41 amHi.
I’d say it is relatively cheap to buy one BM card and maybe new graphics card and run up to 10 layers of hd corrections in real time.
It is not realistic that one thing that supposed to be the best of the best would work with every hardware out there. Look at apple for instance. There is really not every extension board supported like on pc computer. And there is a reason for that. We like apple computers for that.
If your business needs and can support DaVinci financially then i see no problem there if you have buy thing or two. Otherwise color or madgick bullet will work also and be optimal in business model you have.
If not then id say like some says here in cow, get a job, make some money and then buy stuff you need. This is business you are running here not a social club.As far as i consider DaVinci on mac is semi big iron and if you want to use it then you have to adjust your sytsem a bit.
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Margus
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