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  • David Roth weiss

    February 2, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    I thought you’d say that…

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  • Walter Biscardi

    February 2, 2009 at 10:28 pm

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  • Jeremy Garchow

    February 2, 2009 at 11:53 pm

    So you have Upper field first 1080 footage and lower field first SD timeline, correct?

    The best way to do this (as a test) is to right click on one of your HD clips in the timeline and choose Item properties > Format. Find the field dominance row and then change it by right clicking (or control click) from Upper to Lower.

    Sounds crazy, but check it out.

    Jeremy

  • Elijah Lynn

    February 3, 2009 at 2:09 am

    Agreed.

    Apple’s marketing department is light years ahead of the code. It is borderline false advertising on some occasions.

    Maybe someday it will be true.

  • Rafael Amador

    February 3, 2009 at 3:56 am

    Hi David,
    Very interesting test.
    Had you tried setting “Render Motion Effects: BEST”?
    This should affect the quality of the downscaling.
    I’m working in PAL, and the truth is that I’m really happy about the job that FC does when set to “High Precision” and “BEST Motion Rendering”.
    Cheers,
    Rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Joel K.

    February 3, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    The original source footage that’s in HD says there is no field dominance… Does that mean its 1080p? Once again, I don’t know what they shot and I brought it in through media called RevPro (similar to P2 cards). The only option I was given was to bring it in as apple prores HQ or something called Cineform.

    I tried changing the fields to upper and lower, but it made no difference.

    Also, I failed to mention before that I was using a black magic card. The footage looks gross on my HD monitor, not on my computer monitor.

  • Elijah Lynn

    February 3, 2009 at 6:15 pm

    Fields None = Progressive

  • Jeremy Garchow

    February 3, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    [Joel Kotlowitz] “The original source footage that’s in HD says there is no field dominance… Does that mean its 1080p?”

    Could be. Either that or FCP is interpreting it wrong, but therein lies your problem. You need to get the field order straightened out before you tell FCP what to do. If they shot 1080i, the field dom of the clips should be set to upper. Then you drag that in to an Sd timeline, your should see a shift fields filter come on the clips. If it was in fact shot 1080p, then you need to set your SD timeline’s field dom to none.

    Jeremy

  • Rafael Amador

    February 3, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    Hi Joel,
    You will avoid some headaches if you “discover” the real field order of your footage.
    Bring a clip to AE or Shake (if you have it) and you can check it quickly.
    Rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Joel K.

    February 5, 2009 at 6:01 pm

    okay… thanks everyone. your help is really appreciated. my next question, if I do figure out that this was all shot in 1080p (in AE all it says in 1920×1080, it doesnt indicate interlaced or progressive)… how would I set that up? I usually just use easy setup, but the only option there is Blackmagic HDTV 1080i 59.94 – appleprores HQ. I guess I still have a lot to learn about this program.

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