Online from Hell

[Gary Adcock]

The new clip browser for Mac and PC rewrap the essence as MXF very quickly –
the latest version of Media Composer (v3) works natively with the codec,
there is no need for additional transcode or plug-ins to make it work.

Download software from here:
https://www.sony.ca/xdcamex/software.htm

Quick demo here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo7Bw0gObrg&NR=1

Although shown with the PC, the same workflow exists for the Mac via the
tool download.

( thanks to Avid’s michael phillips for this)

gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows

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[Andy Mees]

I’ve not tried this, but if you use CalibratedQ’s MXF Import component then it would seem you should be able to work directly in FCP with the same MXF media you import and use in the Avid edit. Grab the demo’s and test out the workflow … post back and let us know if it works, pro’s and con’s etc. (I note the CalibratedQ state on their site that their native MXF import component is not really suitable for long form XDCAM editing so you may wish to take that into consideration)

[Greg Booth]

Hi Andy,

I should be posting a new build soon of the Calibrated{Q} MXF Import plugin that will address using XDCAM MXF files in long-form FCP projects.

Cheers,
Greg

[Gary Adcock]

[Greg Booth] “I should be posting a new build soon of the Calibrated{Q} MXF Import plugin that will address using XDCAM MXF files in long-form FCP projects. “

Hey greg!

I did not think that your Calibrated{Q} MXF files worked with the Avid converted MXF files.

( you going to be at HDExpo?)

gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows

Inside look at the IoHD

[Sean Davison]

Thanks for the posts guys…I have the XDCam pluging on both FCP and the Media Comosers. The project has been digitised/imported in the States so I wont have to ingest anything. When the offline is done and he editor consolidates the sequence with 2 sec handles – I would usually auto duck that into FCP and redigitise. This will work with the DVCProHD but how would it work with the XDCam even if FCP can see MXF Files How would it know to relink back to the Avid MXF’s?

http://www.twotallmen.co.uk

[Greg Booth]

Hey Gary,

I haven’t tried it out with every AVID MXF format but the ones I’ve tried so far – NTSC DV25 and NTSC IMX work fine, and customers have tried the plugin with other AVID MXF formats that worked as well. The audio though won’t be auto-linked to the video like the current workflow with P2 MXF files but I plan on working on all of this more in the next few weeks.

I’ll be at HDExpo – are you going? Give me an email at info@calibratedsoftware.com

Cheers,
Greg

[Greg Booth]

Hi Sean,

My plugin allows FCP to import MXF (including XDCAM HD – with timecode and audio) – in the current plugin however; importing tons of XDCAM HD MXF files into FCP can take a bit of time (cause of the LongGop MPEG2 structure) – but I plan on addressing this in the next build.

I haven’t used Automatic Duck before so I don’t know how/if it would sync-up but I would think with importing the native XDCAM HD MXF files (which would include timecode) then it might be possible.

But please, give me an email at info@calibratedsoftware.com to discuss your workflow further to see if my plugin could help.

Cheers,
Greg

[Donal O kane]

Hi,

Just got finished an online doing just this, mixed sequence of varicam hdcam and xdcam from media composer to final cut pro via auto duck (which is awesome) for online.

Its not as bad as you might think, and you have two options, I prefer option A even though it has more steps.

These steps assume you still have access to the BPAV folders however and its been a long weekend and i’m still in work I might not have read your posts corectly.

Option A:

Use the sony XDCAM transfer program (i’m currently on 2.7.1) to import (or re wrap as quicktime) the clips that you are using, I had about 20 clips from 12 rolls so i wrote a list and then selected the appropriate ones.

Then using the imported sequence from auto duck (before media managing to an offline) reconnect the newly quicktimed clips.

Then I duplicate the sequence
Cut out all the non xdcam stuff and media manager recompress with delete unused media (with handles) and recompress to the online setting you want (my case 1080i25 pro res 422 (hq)

Then you have a sequence with the clips in the correct place with the correct compression.
I move them up to previously empty tracks
copy and paste into the media managed online sequence and fit nicely into place.

pros : you get clips with handles in the correct place with correct codec so no rendering from now on.

cons : is a bit long and you have to manually move clips to the correct position.

Option B:

perform the same step as above with sony xdcam transfer software

in your media managered offline sequence just reconnect the offline xdcam clips to the full res quicktime files and they will connect up perfectly. i didn’t think this would work as the offline clips have different durations but it does, timecode accurate and all.

pros: quick and easy

cons: you might have mixed codecs on same timeline … not too bad but can be a render pain if like me you get directors that like to move stuff during online, or are going to color you might want to bake the clips etc.

Hope any of that helps

[Sean Davison]

That looks like it should work – Let me make sure Ive got this right,

From the finished offline –

Dont Consolidate! Duck the finished sequence into FCP – relink the XDCam to newly imported Quicktimes (which I guess should match the Avid XDCam Imports in name length and track info) Media Manage and Batch Digitise the DVCProHD

Its the relationship between the Original XDCams, the Avid imported XDcams (MXF’s) and the ProRes 422 XDCams – do the clips need to be relinked individually or will it do a whole folder?

http://www.twotallmen.co.uk

[Donal O kane]

> Dont Consolidate! Duck the finished sequence into FCP – relink the
> XDCam to newly imported Quicktimes (which I guess should match the
> Avid XDCam Imports in name length and track info) Media Manage and
> Batch Digitise the DVCProHD

exactly!

wow that took me four paragraphs to explain …..

just had a go at trying to relink a whole folder and it worked.
I think as long as you have the same filenames that the clips expect then you can relink groups of clips.

Donal