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  • Online, and re-capturing offline clips

    Posted by John Steventon on May 11, 2006 at 9:27 am

    Hi everyone.

    I’ve got a problem. (well, some would say many…) But for Final Cut Pro, I’ve got real problems onlining.

    Two things have come up.

    1) Some of the clips in the project were accidentally deleted (when I deleted media from another project – I’ve no idea how that happened, so and help on that would ALSO be appreciated) leaving 10 or 11 clips in the edit offline.

    Everything had been captured at 10bit Pal Video (Blackmagic) so was already at the resolution I needed it at. But, the master clips that had become offline were captures of an entire tape (on angle of a a rock concert). The problem I have is that if I try to recapture those offline clips in the sequence, FCP wants to re-capture the entire tape again, rather than the 2mins worth of clips that had gone offline in the sequence.

    I tried making a new folder, duplicating the sequence into it, Apple-A to select all the clips in the sequence, and dragging them into the bin (which I guess is the equivalent of Avid’s Decompose option) which let me select the individual offline clips in the bin. But still, FCP wanted to capture the entire 60 min tape.

    I tried making a new project, duplicating the sequence into there, and trying to re-capture the offline clips in the new project, but still – it wanted to capture the entire tape.

    I have to hope there’s a way to re-capture just the parts I’ve used, but all the ways I’ve read about how to do this, still want to capture the entire tape!

    2) As a follow on to this then, what does this mean if I ever want to up-res the project. I’m lucky enough right now that I’ve got 5.6TB of space to work with, and in the SD realm, that gives me a LOT of space and time, and I tend to just take everything in at full ‘online’ DigiBeta quality. But, that’s not really an option with uncompressed HD, so if I take everything in at SD (or less) to upres to HD later, is FCP going to want to take 4 hours of rushes in for a 30 minute edit??

    There must be a way, I know, but it seems my system isn’t happy with it.

    3) My system still doesn’t like insert edits. I assembled on the master, then had to change some audio. I managed 4 or 5 inserts, but the machine then refused to do any more! All I got was the “Your deck may not like this as your insert is only 1 frame” error (Paraphrasing, of course) when the clip to be inserted was at least 20 seconds long.

    I tried duplicating the sequence, I tried opening a new sequence, and pasting in the clips from the one that isn’t working, I tried creating a new project with a new sequence, and I tried re-starting.

    The only thing I guess I should have tried was trashing the preferences, but the system seems to trash prefs by itself every couple of days, and I’m fed up having to re do all my settings each time now!

    The lack of being able to upress, and/or recpature offline clips, but only the clips I’ve used in the edit, and the lack of being able to insert edit, is a REAL problem, and if anyone can help – I’d really appreciate it.

    Has there been any software update/patches to fix these?

    Thanks in advance.

    John

    John
    Success is merely a failiure to imagine more…

    G5 2.7Ghz, 4.5Gb ram, Blackmagic Decklink/multibridge, 5.6Tb Infortrend storage, FCP Studio 5.02, Makie MCU control, Yahama 5.1 surround, JVC DTV multi-format monitor, 2x23inch Apple monitors – and a partirdge on a pear tree.

    John Pale replied 20 years ago 3 Members · 3 Replies
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  • Jerry Hofmann

    May 11, 2006 at 1:17 pm

    1. Read about the media manager in FCP… does much of what Avid’s decompose does. IV-97 in the online help for FCP should be where ya start…
    1.a. Don’t capture clips used in project B into Project A, and you won’t delete clips you still need when you delete the clips from Project A… Also it helps if you don’t trash media from the desktop. If you select everything in your Browser for Project A, then control click and select “make offline” FCP will only delete THOSE files. Of course if you captured Project B’s files there, be sure NOT to select them, or simply delete them from the Browser first. The clps in your Browser are just references to the media and not the media itself.
    2. Read about the media manager in FCP… does much of what Avid’s decompose does.
    3. When’s the last time you serviced the machine which refuses to make every insert? Could be the problem.

    Jerry

  • John Steventon

    May 12, 2006 at 7:14 am

    Hey Jerry,

    Thanks very much for such a full reply.

    Media manager would still bring up the same problem. The new project it created with the edit to be onlined still wanted to digitize every piece of rushes that the edit referred to (ie, the full clips, not just the edit choices).

    I’m very careful about not cross-digitizing projects. 10 years of Media Toll madness in Avid have taught me that for sure! The make offline option is a better idea than deleting from the desktop though, so thanks for that advice.

    And the Digitbeta deck works perfectly well from all four Media Composers, and like I said, it would let me insert 4 or 5 edits before refusing to do any more.

    I’ll check there’s not something I’m missing with Media Manager, but I’ve been on the phone to FCP training people, and what they’ve told me to do is a) What I’ve already been doing, and b) Still not solving the problem.

    I’ll download 5.04, see if that fixes things (if it’s a free update) and let you know.

    Thanks for your help.

    John

    John
    Success is merely a failiure to imagine more…

    G5 2.7Ghz, 4.5Gb ram, Blackmagic Decklink/multibridge, 5.6Tb Infortrend storage, FCP Studio 5.02, Makie MCU control, Yahama 5.1 surround, JVC DTV multi-format monitor, 2x23inch Apple monitors – and a partirdge on a pear tree.

  • John Pale

    May 13, 2006 at 3:10 pm

    https://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/FCP_4_trim_dang_it.html

    Its written for FCP 4, but the procedure still applies in your situation.

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