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  • Chris Babbitt

    November 19, 2007 at 5:01 pm

    The review I read claims the camera is rated at 1.5 lux minimum resolution. How does that compare with the EX?

  • Michael Slowe

    November 19, 2007 at 7:26 pm

    Couldn’t agree more with Craig. The Ex is THE camera of this size and price. The larger chips and proper lens do it for me but we just hope that the cards get cheaper and the transfer / storage questions get worked out.

  • Rafael Amador

    November 20, 2007 at 6:05 pm

    [Michael Slowe] “he Ex is THE camera of this size and price”
    THE CAMERA will be when the EX will record 422 at 50Mbps. Can be done right now. And for not much higher price. Soon the market will demand that quality with that size. Sony will repackage it and will rise the price of the camera..while, hopefully, will low the price of the solid memories. Sony is really mean, but they make good equipment.
    rafael

    PPC G5 2x2Gh 4GbRAM/BlackMagic SD/PMBP 17″Core2Duo 4GbRAM
    JVC DTV-17″/FCS2/AE CS3/COMBUSTION/SHAKE

  • Joe Yaggi

    November 22, 2007 at 3:37 am

    Hey Folks,

    Is there anything like the HVR-DR60 (hopefully with a much bigger memory) for use in the field with EX? I too can spend weeks in the jungle or some gawd forsaken place where keeping even my laptop charged can be dodgy. Needless to say we need to carry lots of batteries.

    Was it Simon that wrote there’d be a firmware update for cache recording? Any ideas when that will be out?

    I also recall reading that transfers to XDCAM discs was problematic. Any new info on that?

    Unfortunately our dealer here in Indonesia says we’re looking at January before the camera reaches our shores. Singapore’s also sold out and behind and it hasn’t even arrived! Certainly could use the camera NOW, not to mention the UN Climate Summit next month… Oops, sorry for rambling. See, there are benefits to living in the west!

    Ah well, guess all the bugs will be worked out 🙂

    Joe

    Joe Yaggi
    Creative Supervisor, Director, DP
    Jungle Run Productions
    http://www.jungle-run.com

  • Don Greening

    November 22, 2007 at 5:29 am

    [Joe Yaggi] “Was it Simon that wrote there’d be a firmware update for cache recording?”

    Are you referring to Simon Wyndham? Sony has stated that eventually there will be a firmware update for the EX that will allow third party flash memory like SanDisk to be used. I heard that once that takes place that the price of a 16 Gig card will drop to around the $200.00 mark USD.

    [Joe Yaggi] “I also recall reading that transfers to XDCAM discs was problematic. Any new info on that?”

    XDCAM disks are generally considered to be the most reliable backup at the moment with a projected shelf life of 50 years plus. The problem with XDCAM disks is that right now you can only record the 1440×1080 frame size to the disks, whereas the frame size of the EX is a full 1920×1080. Effectively, it’s a down-convert. You can bet that that will change in the future.

    As for backup for your particular shooting environment you might want to consider the forthcoming flash memory recording solution from Convergent Design. It uses inexpensive non-proprietary SanDisk memory (along with others) that is available now. Download the .pdf here:

    https://www.convergent-design.com/downloads/Flash%20XDR%20Spec%20and%20FAQ.pdf

    – Don

  • Rafael Amador

    November 22, 2007 at 11:59 am

    [Don Greening] “right now you can only record the 1440×1080 frame size”
    Don,
    I guess that this is a problem if you want a kind of auto-playable disc or an editable disc. Is’n it?
    But about to record standard data BlueRaY? Is posible to save the files as they were in the SS card?
    I can not dream in any device to play the XDCAM disc, so having my archives as files that I just can drag to an HD when needed would be my option.
    Rafael

    PPC G5 2x2Gh 4GbRAM/BlackMagic SD/PMBP 17″Core2Duo 4GbRAM
    JVC DTV-17″/FCS2/AE CS3/COMBUSTION/SHAKE

  • Rafael Amador

    November 22, 2007 at 12:11 pm

    [Joe Yaggi] ” even my laptop charged can be dodgy.”
    And batteries in the MBPs run fast.
    BTW, How are prices in Indonesia comparing with Singapore?
    I’m in Laos and always bought everything in Singapore (Expandore). I heard that now Malaysia have very good prices.
    Rafael

    PPC G5 2x2Gh 4GbRAM/BlackMagic SD/PMBP 17″Core2Duo 4GbRAM
    JVC DTV-17″/FCS2/AE CS3/COMBUSTION/SHAKE

  • Craig Seeman

    November 22, 2007 at 1:32 pm

    Sony rep told me a nifty “trick.” Apparently you can change the .mp4 to a .ts (Transport Stream) and the files will PLAY on a Blu-ray disk in any Blu-ray player. No compression or authoring needed. The 35mbps VBR falls within Blu-rays playable 40mbps data rate.

    Of course one might copy the files from card to disc and burn the free Sony clip browser on to the disc for the client to view if they don’t have a Blu-ray player. This workflow seems a lot easier than handing the client a tape or even XDCAM disc which they then need to have or hunt down or rent a player for.

  • Joe Yaggi

    November 22, 2007 at 2:30 pm

    Hi Rafa,

    Indonesia is generally 10-20% more than Singapore because of the duty coming in. I could just fly over, pick it up and and carry it in, something I’ve been considering. But I’m hoping to build a relationship with the guys here in hopes that they’ll come on board with some sponsorship at some point!

    Joe

    Joe Yaggi
    Creative Supervisor, Director, DP
    Jungle Run Productions
    http://www.jungle-run.com

  • Joe Yaggi

    November 22, 2007 at 2:38 pm

    Hi Don,

    Thanks for your reply. I’ve downloaded the Convergent Design info.

    I was referring to Simon Wyndham but what I read was that there would be a firm ware update for cache recording where, like the F900, Varicam, your camera, in standby, is logging what it sees so when you hit record, like trying to get some furry creature doing some weird furry creature habit, you’ve got the previous 3-7 seconds as soon as you hit record…

    Anyone aware of that or was I being dyslexic again?

    Joe

    Joe Yaggi
    Creative Supervisor, Director, DP
    Jungle Run Productions
    http://www.jungle-run.com

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