OK Decisions! 5D vs EX1R

[Olanrewaju Olakunle]

I think u are good with the 2 just use them when the need arise and try to avoid their pitfalls as much as possible, it seems u already have an idea or two about thier uses so i dont want to start talking about that. so in summary make the best out of the two and you will definately be better off.

Spirit

[Malek Haneen]

I think you misundestood. I ONLY have the EX1r. I was thinking about selling it for the 5D mark 2. My questions is should i? And what are the benefits to either if im doing features and shorts

[Craig Seeman]

Please see this about Sony NEX-VG10. I suspect a “Pro” model is coming soon.
https://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10151&catalogId=10551&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666239819

[Malek Haneen]

That looks like a cool idea but 60i is garbage. I wish they had a 24p version. ANyway no one has really said if the 5d or ex1 are better…

[David C jones]

Hi Malek,

If you haven’t read this already, check it out; it might answer some of your questions.

https://magazine.creativecow.net/article/hdslrs-for-video-beyond-the-hype

Dave J

[Craig Seeman]

The VG10 is a precursor to a “Pro” version camera that will have a large sensor but far more video/filmmaker friendly in form factor, controls, features. It depends on whether you can wait. Both Panasonic and Sony are working on more “video” friendly form and features and the VG10 is just the first out the door “consumer” version of what will inevitably lead to video professional versions.

“Better” is not the right way to look at it. Is a hammer better than a screwdriver. They’re different tools.

Issues with the 5D may be form factor, audio quality, rolling shutter, 12 minute record duration. The latest firmware fixed many of the earlier issues. None of these may be problems at all depending on your shooting style. It can be excellent for a dramatic film but might not be if it’s an action or sports film.
You’ve noted the tradeoff in resolution and light loss with Letus adaptor.

I think you’ll have to list the pluses and minuses for the two cameras relative to the specific films you’ll be shooting.

[Malek Haneen]

Ok I think Im sold. But do I get the 7d or 5d? There is no movie mode for the 5d. But are the lenses for the 7d not able to work on future cameras?
Price difference of around $800….I just dont know which one is better!
Do either have output to HD for an external monitor? Or does Magic Latern fix that?

[Bob Pierce]

One more thing about the 5D: the camera drops to SD external monitoring while recording.
If you’re really going to shoot with one of these you’re going to need lots of add-ons, hand held rig, loupe viewfinder, follow focus, etc.

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[Craig Moore]

I thought long and hard about DSLR or EX1 before I bought my EX1R. I knew photogs who had 5D/7D so i was able to get all kinds of in the field notes.

In a nutshell the DSLRs are akin to traditional filmaking cameras. If you have a great lens kit to compliment the DLSR body (and know the strengths of each) then you have a great tool. But you need that flexibility to match what an all-in-one camera like the EX1 (or any good video camera) is and has built in.

Plus, as I am a small crew or single shooter, having XLR and good audio monitoring and all the other builtin stuff with the ex1 tramples anything a DSLR has. Especially if you already have a letus and extrenal sound. Don’t get caught up, the DSLR can create great shots and kill in tight spaces but they are a tool.

If I were you I’d pickup a 7D (which is a dual sensor and very good) or even a T2i (which has the same senor BTW) to add to your shots and toolkit. Add lenses as budget allows or even better if you know some pro photogs, bring them along and hire them to bring their kit as a 2nd unit or 1st unit that you can DOP/direct. Then you can really see the in and outs of it.

DSLR shooting as a single shoot is very challenging, it is best done as a film crew with focus pullers, and all the fun.

Now that I have my EX1R, I so know i made the right decision, and if I want to up the resolution I can get a Nano flash or something else to capture the SDI out.

Hope that helps

thanks
Craig

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[Rafael Amador]

[Craig Seeman] “The VG10 is a precursor to a “Pro” version camera”
Amazing.
The best of the DSRL rush is that is pushingd a new generation of video cameras.
I’ve never saw the manufacturers reacting that fast to the real needs and trends of the consumers. Was time.
In the next few months we gonna see incredible devices.
rafael

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