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Oh dear.
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I don’t have any specific knowledge. The speculation is that the lawsuit boils down to properly estimating numbers of licenses in the subscription model. Not because of subscription itself, but rather the fact that CC is a selection of apps where you can use a few or all. So calculating how many users actually use the specific apps with this technology becomes difficult.
Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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[Oliver Peters] “Not because of subscription itself, but rather the fact that CC is a selection of apps where you can use a few or all. So calculating how many users actually use the specific apps with this technology becomes difficult.”
But Avid presumably befell the same fate and MC is not a collection of apps like CC.
Maybe it’s not that Adobe offers a collection of apps, but that Adobe, and Avid, continue to distribute past versions of their respective applications to their customers at no extra cost? That might explain why there is a hard cut off date. Maybe the original Dolby deal was for X number of years and now that the agreement is over Adobe and Avid didn’t want to continue to pay to cover old versions of the apps? Or maybe Dolby tried to jack up the price by saying, “Hey, now you are offering six versions of your NLE instead of just one so we are going to charge you a separate fee for each NLE you continue to distribute to your customers”?
There would be a bit of irony in the back catalog offered by Avid an Adobe turing from an amazing selling point to a financial liability.
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[Andrew Kimery] “But Avid presumably befell the same fate and MC is not a collection of apps like CC.”
To my knowledge, Dolby is in a lawsuit with Adobe, but not with Avid. Maybe Avid is simply playing it safe. But, of course, all of this is simply speculation ☺
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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[Oliver Peters] “To my knowledge, Dolby is in a lawsuit with Adobe, but not with Avid. Maybe Avid is simply playing it safe. But, of course, all of this is simply speculation ☺”
Speculation… is what we do here. ????
I’m just trying to look for common ground between Avid and Adobe in this situation.
Adobe offers a suite of apps, Avid does not.
Adobe offers a subscription, Avid offers subscriptions and perpetual licenses and *both* are impacted (so it doesn’t seem to be a subscription-based issue).
What both companies do offer is a back catalog to older versions of their software, and this is a relatively new thing. Typically the older versions disappear from store shelves (real and virtual) and the only places to get them is 2nd hand. Hence my theory that the issue at hand is somehow related to software distribution windows and so Avid and Adobe are officially closing the window on the older software by pulling it off the shelves.
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[Andrew Kimery] “Adobe offers a suite of apps, Avid does not”
Well, not exactly. But remember they have a ton of products across live/studio/post audio, video editing, broadcast, news, media management, virtual sets, etc. So its hard to say how this is calculated. I notice in Avid Link that AC3 is still there, but as a separate option.
[Andrew Kimery] “Hence my theory that the issue at hand is somehow related to software distribution windows and so Avid and Adobe are officially closing the window on the older software by pulling it off the shelves”
That seems reasonable. Not unlike another company pulling its products off the shelf ☺
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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[Oliver Peters] “Well, not exactly. But remember they have a ton of products across live/studio/post audio, video editing, broadcast, news, media management, virtual sets, etc. So its hard to say how this is calculated. I notice in Avid Link that AC3 is still there, but as a separate option.”
Right, I should’ve specified MC instead of saying Avid in general.
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[David Lawrence] “https://gizmodo.com/adobe-warns-using-old-creative-cloud-apps-might-get-you…
Yeah, a software subscription model is sooooo much better for the customer, lol!”
Hi David, welcome back 🙂
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BTW – This post muddies the waters even more if you bought perpetual versions.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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[Oliver Peters] “BTW – This post muddies the waters even more if you bought perpetual versions.
https://www.provideocoalition.com/premiere-pro-6-after-effects-11-ps-13-did...
“I wonder how much of this is legit vs Adobe doing an extremely conservative CYA move because there’s a 0.0000000000001% chance a patent troll might file a lawsuit against an end user someday maybe?
I mean, patent trolls have sued/threatened to sue people over everything from using Wifi to using the scan-to-email feature on all-in-one printers.
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[Andrew Kimery] “I mean, patent trolls have sued/threatened to sue people over everything from using Wifi to using the scan-to-email feature on all-in-one printers.”
My favorite one of all time was Personal Audio, LLC’s patent claim over podcasting…
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