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Simon Ubsdell
July 18, 2014 at 8:50 pm[Craig Alan] “Can you name the missing functions?”
1) Replace Edit – in the conventional sense, not the feature Apple cheekily call Replace Edit which is fun but not what I’m talking about here.
2) Gang Sync.
3) Multiple simultaneous timecode displays (optional).
Trivial things to countless other users but essential to virtually every editing job that I undertake, and hence non-negotiable must-haves.
For me.
Yes, there are countless other cosmetic improvements that we might all like to see, but when a missing feature doesn’t actually allow you to do your job, it’s a pretty big deal.
But sorry, I’m boring everyone who has heard me ask for these things so many times before.
And, to reiterate, in case this is taken the wrong way, I do very much enjoy cutting in FCP X on the few occasions when I don’t absolutely need the above features.
As things stand, though, I’d happily swap every single last ground-breaking media management feature, if I could only get my hands on those paltry editing options.
I do suspect there are some basic architectural issues which stand in the way of these being implemented, but I could be completely wrong.
Simon Ubsdell
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Simon Ubsdell
July 18, 2014 at 8:54 pm[Charlie Austin] “I’ve got actual playhead match replace on my short list of WTF? issues. Send to Motion/open in editor is another, but I don’t miss it all that much. “
It’s interesting what each of us thinks if important and the other doesn’t.
I know Send to Motion is high on a lot of users’ lists, and you’d think that as Motion’s Number One Fan, I would be demanding this as well, but it’s something I can pretty comfortably live without.
Genuine Replace Edit and Gang Sync are the two things I genuinely can’t do without.
Which is a completely different list from Things I Would Like To See.
Simon Ubsdell
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Simon Ubsdell
July 18, 2014 at 8:56 pm[Charlie Austin] “Also, the fact that “scrolling timeline” is his number one issue makes me take the rest less seriously. I can’t think of a future I would want less. ;-)”
Couldn’t agree more.
Simon Ubsdell
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Herb Sevush
July 18, 2014 at 8:56 pm[Simon Ubsdell] “Trivial things to countless other users but essential to virtually every editing job that I undertake, and hence non-negotiable must-haves. For me.”
The most enlightening thing about this forum is the exposure to so many widely varied workflows. Features that are deal breakers for me are less than meaningless to to so many others. The depth of most NLE software is quite amazing – and it’s getting deeper, not simpler, as time passes.
Herb Sevush
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Simon Ubsdell
July 18, 2014 at 9:04 pm[Herb Sevush] “The depth of most NLE software is quite amazing – and it’s getting deeper, not simpler, as time passes.”
Indeed. But here FCP X seems to be the exception, at least from an editing point of view. We see an increasingly complex media management system (which is great for countless users, but virtually meaningless to me), but advances in the editing toolset seem to have stalled quite dramatically.
Maybe we’ll see amazing new things in the next release.
Or the one after that.
Or the one that one that comes with the OS that comes after Yosemite.
Really soon, in other words.
Simon Ubsdell
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Andrew Kimery
July 18, 2014 at 9:10 pm[Charlie Austin] “I don’t think that’s a fair assessment of “many” X users. Some for sure though and, as someone who prefers X over the other NLE’s (that I actually own/rent and use) I find that attitude just as annoying as you do. Just saying.”
I should have been more clear. Many users talked about options being good (which they are) but some users got all passive/aggressive about it.
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Charlie Austin
July 18, 2014 at 9:17 pm[Simon Ubsdell] “but advances in the editing toolset seem to have stalled quite dramatically.
“I wouldn’t say “dramatically”, but yeah… new/improved/reimplemented features haven’t happened as quickly as they were initially. The guts of the app and fcpxml etc have improved a ton, but the toolset needs some love. The fact that this is still in the code, archaic names and all:
-key- ReplaceWithSelectedMediaAtPlayhead -/key-
– string-Replace the selected Sequence clip with the selected Organizer clip aligned to their Playhead locations -/string-gives me (false?) hope that one glaringly missing feature will one day reappear. That’s the only thing that really makes me shake my head. Lot’s of “like to haves”, but this one is a biggie. Doesn’t negate the things I now find indispensable, but still. And I think your other 2 are quite reasonable as well. Anyone from Apple lurking here? C’mon… pretty please? 🙂
[Simon Ubsdell] ” …OS that comes after Yosemite.”
I bet FCP X blends quite nicely with Dark Mode. 🙂————————————————————-
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Simon Ubsdell
July 18, 2014 at 9:22 pm[Charlie Austin] “The fact that this is still in the code, archaic names and all:
-key- ReplaceWithSelectedMediaAtPlayhead -/key-
– string-Replace the selected Sequence clip with the selected Organizer clip aligned to their Playhead locations -/string-gives me (false?) hope that the one glaringly missing feature will one day reappear.”
As I say, I do think there are structural problems with implementing it and it’s not just a simple case of “turning it on”.
If we think about the way that X handles “time”, then I think it’s possible to speculate about the potential difficulties.
If it were as easy as flipping the ON switch, I suspect they’d have done it by now.
Simon Ubsdell
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Craig Alan
July 18, 2014 at 9:24 pmWe call it dolly in and out, zoom in and out, pan left or right, truck/track left or right. And yes tilt up and down. Pedestal up and down.
With a transform, I can more or less create the look of panning and tilting but not so much trucking or pedestal.
And a lot depends on how tight the original shot was. The angle of lens to any given part of the image is not going to change.So I suppose I follow their choice of camera terms. But it’s less accurate than the standard was.
I think it’s counterproductive to rename industry standard terms unless they truly no longer apply. You can certainly use a transform tool to simulate panning and tilting but you can also do many other things with the same tool set. What u can’t do is change the camera’s 3D relationship to the subject. Seems like every product is required to be different innovative paradigm shifting to be marketable.
Unless the interface was using a virtual camera to transform the shots, it is less than helpful to rename the positioning on what is a virtual grid/graph. And if you were using a virtual camera you’d be shooting a 2 D image with a 2D tool.
That might be a fun way to remake the tool’s interface. And then I could see the purpose of renaming it. But it would not be able to create everything that a transform tool can do.Mac Pro, macbook pro, Imacs (i7); Canon 5D Mark III/70D, Panasonic AG-HPX170/AG-HPX250P, Canon HV40, Sony Z7U/VX2000/PD170; FCP 6 certified; FCP X write professionally for a variety of media; teach video production in L.A.
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Craig Alan
July 18, 2014 at 9:48 pmYes I knew you had most likely covered it, but in terms of this thread I think it was worth reviewing. So thanks. FYI: I was not asking to debate but just wanted to understand.
[Simon Ubsdell] “1) Replace Edit – in the conventional sense, not the feature Apple cheekily call Replace Edit which is fun but not what I’m talking about here.”
1. Can you help me out here. What exact replace edit? FCP X can replace from the In point of both, the out point of both, the entire clip for clip or retimed like fit to fill. What can’t it do? Again, not to debate. I’m not a pro editor.
[Simon Ubsdell] “2) Gang Sync.”
2. The multicam editor I assume won’t cover your need?[Simon Ubsdell] “3) Multiple simultaneous timecode displays (optional).”
3. Have you looked at all the plug-ins that add time code to X?Mac Pro, macbook pro, Imacs (i7); Canon 5D Mark III/70D, Panasonic AG-HPX170/AG-HPX250P, Canon HV40, Sony Z7U/VX2000/PD170; FCP 6 certified; FCP X write professionally for a variety of media; teach video production in L.A.
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