offline in DV for HDV material

[David Roth weiss]

Geralyn,

DV is 13gb per hour and HDV is 13gb per hour. So, other than introducing a slew of potential issues, what exact benefit did your producer envision receiving from an offline/online scenario?

As far as cutting widescreen vs letterbox, the benefit of cutting widescreen would be that any graphics and text you create would be essentially formatted properly. However, this bings me back to the original point about not going offline/online, because you also never have to redo any text or graphics if you simply cut from the start at your final resolution and aspect ratio.

David

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[Bill Kelly]

Another thing to think about if you’re going to be creating text/graphics and working in DV (widescreen or not): You’ll be sizing everything for a 720×480 space. When you online with your HDV tapes, you’ll be working in a 1920×1080 space for output. As a result, anything you created will be smaller than it looked when you created it in DV space and you’ll have to redo/upsize your graphics.

[Geralyn Abinader]

Yes, well, I didn’t have a say in the matter, just got the tapes. I also don’t have an HDV deck which may be one reason she wanted to do it this way. I could rent one. I’ll propose it before proceeding. However if we continue along this line, I guess I’ll use anamorphic? or I guess I could use HDV and work with a really crappy image.

Geralyn

[Jason Porthouse]

[Geralyn Abinader] “However if we continue along this line, I guess I’ll use anamorphic? or I guess I could use HDV and work with a really crappy image.
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Geralyn,

Your methodology is a bit screwy here. Personally I’d go for editing in HDV – it really is no more onerous than editing in DV, apart from the monitoring – you can’t get HDV over FW for monitoring as you can with DV. You’ll need some sort of capture card (Kona, Blackmagic) or gizmo like the Matrox MXO.

If you have to edit DV, you need to do some basic prep – check your DV dubs have identical TC, and log really well – especially around TC breaks if you have any. Use DV easy setup, don’t try putting DV in an HDV timeline. When you’ve got picture lock, use media manager to create a new project and then re-digitise in HDV. Assuming your DV dubs are anamorphic and not letterboxed, use anamorphic and edit widescreen. If they are letterboxed, edit 4:3.

Whatever way round, if you cut from the DV dubs allow yourself a little more time for the ‘online’ and you should be fine.

Jason

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[Geralyn Abinader]

thanks, Jason. this is exactly what i need. I’m not the one creating the workflow, I only need to figure out how to make it work.

this helps a great deal.

Geralyn