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  • Offline house doing a 10-bit Online

    Posted by Guiser on September 20, 2006 at 3:01 pm

    Hello all,

    We are an offline edit house that usually goes to an online house to output all of our projects.

    Currently we are working on a music video that is a straight cut – so to cut costs we decided to receive the material in 10-bit (instead of low res [dv]) and are going to do the online ourselves.

    This project is for broadcast television (SD).

    The piece was shot on 35mm 16:9 – and the letterbox will have to be added in. I know when positioning letterbox it matters what scan lines it is situated on. What scan lines should I be working on with a 10-bit? Odd or Even?

    Anything else I should know?

    thanks,

    steve.

    Guiser replied 19 years, 8 months ago 3 Members · 3 Replies
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  • Rafael Amador

    September 20, 2006 at 3:56 pm

    Hi Steve,
    If your footage is 10b should be Upper-first, if you are PAL, and Lower if NTSC (this if had been properly captured).
    So just open a sequene with the same parameters of your footage.
    You could start to letter-boxing from the beguining (just laying annamorphic clips in a 4×3 sequence), but then you got not chance of RT because all the time line have to be rendered,
    I think the best is to edit 16×9. When you are ready to export you can letterboxing by changing the aspect of the sequence(in the Settins), and them the aspect of the images already on the time-line (in the motion tab). And eaven easyer if you open a new 4×3 sequence and drag and drop the 16×9 sequence inside.
    Salud,
    Rafael

  • Michael Gissing

    September 21, 2006 at 3:49 am

    As a facility that outputs a music video show each week for network TV, can you PLEASE make both a Full Height (anamorphic) version as well as the letterbox. Put them on the same tape as well. Each week we take 4:3 letterbox clips and zoom them 130% cause the networks won’t accept 4:3 letterbox. So each week we see big budget 35 mm clips looking like VHS when they are zoomed.

    Someone needs to tell the clip makers what the broadcasters want. I am working in PAL in Australia, but anywhere in the world full height can be made into a 4:3 letterbox without grief, but the other way kills your clip.

  • Guiser

    September 21, 2006 at 8:10 pm

    Thanks for the replies – but I don’t think I was very clear.

    It was shot 16:9 and then transfered 16:9 in a 4:3 space – as it stands now it has mirroring at the top and bottom of the frame so we are going to put in the letterbox (black) ourselves. All I need to know is what scan lines to place them on so that the letterbox is as sharp as possible (in 10bit).

    Michael, thats a great idea – but 99% of the directors we work with won’t allow their work that originated in 16:9 to be cropped down to a 4:3 full frame. The music video was framed in 16:9 and they don’t want it to been seen otherwise. I just had an issue with this last week where all the masters had to be sent back and re-done because someone went ahead and output it without letterbox and the director wouldn’t let it go to air.

    Thanks guys,

    steve.

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