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  • Odd Video problem – need advice on re-encoding…

    Posted by Greig Middlemiss on July 12, 2012 at 6:00 pm

    Hi all,

    I’m struggling with a video conversion that I need to do.

    We have a short 3 minute video that we’ve produced, but when played back on our Corporate intranet over most user’s PCs – almost all the speech in the file is inaudible, just the background music. We’ve tested the video over stereo headsets, speakers etc and all is fine. However, lots of users in our business use mono USB Plantronics headsets, and it’s these users who are struggling. I’ve tried many different formats and still have this issue.

    We are requested by our IT dept to use FLV format for video wherever possible.

    I’ve run a video I know works fine against our own video using iMedia HUD app on my Mac to compare the codecs etc, and these are the results:

    WORKING VIDEO

    quad1.flv
    Format : Flash Video
    File size : 62.5 MiB
    Duration : 3mn 45s
    Overall bit rate : 2 324 Kbps
    Writing application : Lavf52.84.0

    Video
    Format : Sorenson Spark
    Codec ID : 2
    Duration : 3mn 45s
    Bit rate : 195 Kbps
    Width : 450 pixels
    Height : 300 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 3:2
    Frame rate mode : Constant
    Frame rate : 25.000 fps
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.058
    Stream size : 5.25 MiB (8%)

    Audio
    Format : MPEG Audio
    Format version : Version 1
    Format profile : Layer 3
    Mode : Joint stereo
    Mode extension : MS Stereo
    Codec ID : 2
    Codec ID/Hint : MP3
    Duration : 3mn 45s
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 128 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Stream size : 3.44 MiB (6%)
    Writing library : LAME3.98.4

    NEW VIDEO (Non-Working)

    Virgin_Kon_v8.mp4
    Format : MPEG-4
    Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
    Codec ID : mp42
    File size : 34.9 MiB
    Duration : 2mn 20s
    Overall bit rate : 2 078 Kbps
    Encoded date : UTC 2012-07-09 15:38:42
    Tagged date : UTC 2012-07-12 07:25:56

    Video
    ID : 1
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile : Baseline@L3.0
    Format settings, CABAC : No
    Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
    Codec ID : avc1
    Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
    Duration : 2mn 20s
    Bit rate : 1 915 Kbps
    Width : 640 pixels
    Height : 360 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate mode : Constant
    Frame rate : 25.000 fps
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.332
    Stream size : 32.1 MiB (92%)
    Language : English
    Encoded date : UTC 2012-07-09 15:38:42
    Tagged date : UTC 2012-07-09 15:38:44
    Color primaries : BT.601-6 525, BT.1358 525, BT.1700 NTSC, SMPTE 170M
    Transfer characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
    Matrix coefficients : BT.601-6 525, BT.1358 525, BT.1700 NTSC, SMPTE 170M

    Audio
    ID : 2
    Format : AAC
    Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
    Format profile : LC
    Codec ID : 40
    Duration : 2mn 20s
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 160 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Channel positions : Front: L R
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Stream size : 2.69 MiB (8%)
    Language : English
    Encoded date : UTC 2012-07-09 15:38:42
    Tagged date : UTC 2012-07-09 15:38:44

    Can anyone offer any advice – I would like to convert it to match (or get close) in Premiere Pro CS6 but I’m not sure of how to get these settings as I’m a bit of a Premiere newbie.

    Just for clarity – the video plays perfectly well, it’s just the audio we are having issue with. It’s played via FlowPlayer on our SharePoint intranet. This is the first video we have had this issue with.

    Adam Smith replied 13 years, 9 months ago 2 Members · 1 Reply
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  • Adam Smith

    July 17, 2012 at 6:17 am

    I wonder if it’s your audio tracks and not the encoding.

    I’m NOT an audio guy, but I know if you mix the exact same audio on two tracks, with the phase on one side inverted, you’ll get something similar to what you describe… the trick can actually be used to create a simple karaoke track from standard recordings. For whatever reason the two tracks cancel out at certain frequencies (same theory behind noise reduction headphones and the like), but it seems to focus more on the frequencies including human voices and leave quite a bit of the music behind.

    Now how an issue like that could wind up in your program I have no idea. I may be way off base here, and I’m sure someone else could speak with more accuracy, but that’s where I’d start. Have you tried monitoring from the edit station with all tracks centered (mono)? Or playing your initial output file in the same manner, before encoding to the delivery format?

    -Adam

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    Video Photographer / Avid & Final Cut Editor

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