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  • Odd Behavior in FCP X

    Posted by Nick Toth on March 17, 2013 at 11:48 am

    I had been working on some relatively simple 30 second spots that were taking an unusual amount of time to render and/or export. I needed to get the spots out the door so I just bit the bullet and bulled my way through the project.

    Later on I was going through one of the project timelines to see if I could figure out any reason why these were taking so long to render/export. (BTW-In the midst of all of this I had done some projects that were equally or even more complex and they seemed to be performing more as I would expect.)

    I highlighted one of the clips in the offending project and on a whim opened the retime menu. Quality was set to frame blending and the menu was grayed out. I checked the clip and it was set to 100% speed.

    Obviously, I thought that was unusual so I checked and found that every clip on the timeline had frame blending turned on and all of them were running at 100% speed. This is all DVCPro HD footage that I shot myself and never had any issues with when I’d used some of it before.

    So….I quit FCP X and then re-opened the same project. This time when I checked all the footage the retime menu was set to normal. When I did a test render all was back to normal.

    The strange thing is that I had quit and re-started this project several times and it always was sluggish. I had deleted render files, re-started the computer etc.

    This looks like some kind of a bug or a corruption of these particular projects. I checked several other projects that I did recently and none of them showed the same issue.

    Might be something to check if you’re finding a slowdown in performance.

    anickt

    Bret Williams replied 13 years, 2 months ago 4 Members · 5 Replies
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  • David Battistella

    March 17, 2013 at 5:06 pm

    great tip. Thanks

    Just to repeat,

    The frames were set to frame blending ON and retime 100% and you think that is what was causing the slowdown?

    Maybe a selection or keyboard command batch changed them in some way

    David

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  • Nick Toth

    March 17, 2013 at 8:44 pm

    Hi David
    In looking into it a little further it looks like a bug. Not that this would be a normal workflow but I think it points to an issue. Take a piece of footage at 100%. Under video quality, normal is checked and the three choices (normal, frame blending and optical flow) are grayed out. That’s what I would expect. Next I change the clip speed to 50%. Under video quality normal is checked and all 3 choices are not grayed out. If I choose (for instance) optical flow and then change the clip back to 100% what should happen? I would expect the video quality to revert to normal but it stays on optical flow. OK – so I change the speed back to 50% and check the video quality. Still optical flow. Change the speed back to 100% – quality is still optical flow and choices are not grayed out. Change video quality back to normal and when I leave and then go back to video quality optical flow is checked and the menu is grayed out. Change the clip to 50% and open video quality and normal is checked with choices not grayed out. Change speed back to 100% and video quality normal is checked and choices are grayed out. Is it just me or is this behavior odd? I see this on two different systems.

    To get back to my original issue, I think that having all clips with frame blending turned on even though they are at 100% speed may have been causing the sluggish behavior. I couldn’t find anything else unusual. I’m not sure how all of those clips got that way because I don’t believe I ever re-timed any of them. I’ll report it to Apple and see what happens.

    anickt

  • Charlie Austin

    March 18, 2013 at 7:16 am

    Yep… reset speed doesn’t reset the video quality…

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  • Nick Toth

    March 18, 2013 at 12:02 pm

    Correct Charlie – here’s what I found with a little further digging.

    If I have a clip that was re-timed and set to either frame blending or optical flow and then change it back to 100% it will not revert to normal mode unless I check “normal” mode and then toggle to 50% and then back to 100%.

    I don’t know if this caused the original problem of long render/export times but I couldn’t find anything else unusual in the project I was working on.

    anickt

  • Bret Williams

    March 18, 2013 at 12:10 pm

    That’s the render quality of the retime effect. It shouldn’t be invoked at all unless you actually retime a clip. IOW it shouldn’t matter what the setting. Did these clips require rendering even though they are 100% speed?

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