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Novice Question About Captured Footage
Posted by Chad Miller on August 26, 2009 at 6:19 amI just installed the newest version of FCS but I’m a complete newbie to film and editing (coming from photography)
I am shooting with a XH-A1 at 24f 1080i and capturing to FCP in HDV-Apple ProRes 422 1080p24 with a frame rate of 23.98. The footage looks incredible in this format. With this setting I don’t have DV control through firewire though.
Is ProRes going to be the best option for me to get the best quality out of my camera? Also, is there a way to get ProRes to detect start/stop in the footage for easy editing or does this option only happen with HDV 1080i 24p?
If I can’t get a prores capture to cut the start/stops into clips, how can I cut up a large (20 minute clip for example) into smaller clips for faster editing?
Sorry for bothering you pros with such basic questions, thank you for your help.
Chad
Chad Miller replied 16 years, 8 months ago 3 Members · 8 Replies -
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Alexandre Brandt
August 26, 2009 at 2:59 pmHi.
About formats I’m not the one that really knows, I still have to learn, but about cutting up a clip in small clips that what’s to do:
Go in the Browser and open you clip in the viewer (double click)
To play the clip press space bar or the play singe in the viewer. At the moment where you want to beguine your subclip (a smaller clip of a clip), you press “i” and it puts a “mark in” point. You can also go in the menu-> mark-> mark in.
When it comes to a moment you want to stop the subclip you press “o” our menu->mark->mark out.So you find yourself with the clip and one in and and out point that you see in the viewer in blue.
Now you have to make the actual subclip. You can press “command” and “u”. You will see that a new clip has appeared in the bin (a file in the browser) where your actual clip is. The name of that new clip is the “same name subclip”.
I’f you are not comfortable with keyboard short cuts you can go in “tools”-> “button list”. In that list you put the key shortcut. It will reveal you a button that you can drag and put at the top of your browser, viewer or canvas.
It looks complicated but it is not. When you continue and look in you maine clip you can put the reader on the “out point” and press “i” it will transform that out in “in” so you only have to find a new “out” and make an other subclip.
What you can also do if you don’t like stopping watching your clip every time to make a sub, you can just watch the clip in real time and press “<" when it comes to a point that you want it to be "in" or "out". You will see it will ad markers in your viewer. At the end you just go trough those markers by putting your reader on them and pressing "i" or "o" to make in and outs. motion images + storytelling = ? -> FILMMAKING !
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David Roth weiss
August 26, 2009 at 3:42 pmChad,
Check out the following tutorial by Chris Poisson, who explains how to capture HDV to ProRes on the fly via firewire.
https://library.creativecow.net/articles/poisson_chris/hdv-prores.php
I use this technique all the time. The process is completely automatic, with no user control, but it creates clips that correspond to every camera start and stop, and everything comes in as ProRes too. It’s a nice way to work.
David
David Roth Weiss
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Chad Miller
August 26, 2009 at 8:28 pmThanks for the help David, I just did another capture and again it didn’t recognize the start/stop points. Here were my settings…

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David Roth weiss
August 27, 2009 at 3:57 amChad,
Your capture preset is correct. Now, just cue the camera to the start of the tape, and get the process started and sit back. It doesn’t all happen in real time, it has to transcode, which takes a while. Sit back and let the entire tape go and you’ll see that it does every take from cam start to cam stop.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los AngelesPOST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
A forum host of Creative COW’s Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.
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Chad Miller
August 27, 2009 at 6:09 amI’ve tried 10 different settings now and FCP is still not auto clipping my footage at the stop/starts.
Even talked to a friend with the same setup as me and replicated his video/audio settings and it still didn’t autoclip start/stops for me.
Is there another setting within the program that I’m missing? I’m stumped….
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David Roth weiss
August 27, 2009 at 6:37 amDid you let it do the entire tape?
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los AngelesPOST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
A forum host of Creative COW’s Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.
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Chad Miller
August 27, 2009 at 8:02 amI made sure I was at the beginning of the tape and I captured to FCP, the first day of footage that I shot, captured and logged correctly (recognizing all start/stops), however after that first day I manually cued the tape and the time-code started over for my next day of shooting. So, after capturing all footage from after that original day are lumped into one 30 minute clip. Any fix for this or do I need to use end search if I want to use the same tape next time or what?
Thanks so much David for taking the time to help me out.
Chad
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Chad Miller
August 28, 2009 at 4:32 amSo I went out and shot again today, new tape…
came home and rewound it to the beginning again and captured. Once again, all into one large file.
I must have changed a setting since I shot the last working footage, anyone know what I could have changed on the camera to mess the timecode up?
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