Not like the below thread is just germaine to video…

[Herb Sevush]

[Bill Davis] “Interesting read.”

Funny, but I don’t notice this next generation paying to watch movies shot on iPhones. The democratization of media is a wonderful development, but as long as it costs a million dollars a week to hire Brad Pitt, there will still be a place for high end tools. The author, and you too Bill, fail to distinguish between amateur home movies and professional media. 8mm film was good enough for Zapruder, and iPhones are fine for uploading gas attacks in Syria to youtube, but if your shooting a car spot that costs 100K to make, I expect to find a real camera on the set.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Gary Huff]

[Herb Sevush] “Funny, but I don’t notice this next generation paying to watch movies shot on iPhones.”

They aren’t, and that was one of the biggest things that struck me in the article. First was his willingness to bet the kind of individual who buys professional cameras…which clearly stems from his observation about people who go to camera conventions.

Those are two very different segments of the population.

Second, he’s trying to argue from the perspective of a generation he is not a part of. That is doomed to fail.

Third, as you said Herb, the next generation isn’t buying anything. They are content to entertain themselves for free with YouTube media, but they aren’t spending money on it. So great, by a cheap camera so you can shoot terrible stuff that you give away for free. That’s a terrific business model! Just take a look at what people are paying good money for.

Fourth, he seems to lump in m4/3 with “cheap”. I don’t think that’s fair as m4/3 isn’t some kind of P&S format only. My GH3 does an excellent job.

[Timothy Auld]

No, they don’t buy anything out of necessity. They don’t have any money.

Tim

[Gary Huff]

Then who is buying those tickets to movies like Star Trek: Into Darkness, Man of Steel, and Iron Man 3?

Who is buying those Game of Thrones DVDs and Blu-rays?

[Steve Connor]

[Gary Huff] “Then who is buying those tickets to movies like Star Trek: Into Darkness, Man of Steel, and Iron Man 3?

Who is buying those Game of Thrones DVDs and Blu-rays?
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Mostly me!

Steve Connor

There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum

[Timothy Auld]

Not sure. But certainly not my son or his friends. They find ways to amuse themselves for free. Perhaps they are anomaly. I have no statistics to back it up but from the people I know (teens to dead) the video game market is much older than most think. Who is really paying for a 20 year old’s video games?

Tim

[Timothy Auld]

Jeez, I am dumb. Your reference was to dvds and blu-rays, not video games. But my answer would be the same. My son and his friends are paying off student loans. Occasionally they buy a song on itunes.

Tim

[Clint Wardlow]

[Gary Huff] “Second, he’s trying to argue from the perspective of a generation he is not a part of. That is doomed to fail.”

I also think the change to smaller, lighter, and such like is more a reflection of the home movie, home photo ethos. Instead of using polaroids and instamatics to record family and friends, the youngsters are using iphones and ipads. Instead of photo albums or 8mm movie projectors to be whipped out when friends arrive, it is uploaded to social media.

The need for high-end will always be around.

Although I do find it interesting that with this move to newer and newer, that even among the young, there is a looking back to the look and feel of the old. How else do you explain the popularity of the toy camera look of hipstamatic or instagram. Sometimes it almost seems like every third photo uploaded to facebook is some kind of selfie made to look like a crappy old polaroid print?

[Bill Davis]

[Herb Sevush] “The author, and you too Bill, fail to distinguish between amateur home movies and professional media.”

Look, I didn’t offer ANY type of opinion about this – I just posted it because I though it was an interesting look at a related but very different industry that’s undergoing a similar change from our own.

When he described the photo shows – it mirrored my experiences at NAB and other trade shows very much. They ARE “greyer” than they used to be when I started going 20 years ago.

I just saw the article, and felt the perspective of a teaching professional with long experience in one field – who’s seeing trends that he’s grappling to understand – might be interesting to some here.

I didn’t make any argument on whether he’s correct, or off base, or anything else. I just posted it because I found it interesting.

Simple as that.

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[Herb Sevush]

[Bill Davis] “I didn’t make any argument on whether he’s correct, or off base, or anything else. I just posted it because I found it interesting. “

You are quite right. My apologies for my assumptions.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin’ attached to nothin’
“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf