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  • Not another “Avid” like request..

    Posted by John Knapich on November 21, 2008 at 7:41 pm

    I will be upfront about this – I am a former Avid Editor and hey, I have been cutting FCP for over a year now and like it a lot. I actually think both systems work great. But of course here comes my gripe for FCP –
    has anyone figured out a way to subclip WHILE capturing in FCP?
    I hate that I have to either log my tape first, then capture OR I have to capture all my footage then have to log it.
    It is such a time saver to be able to do both at the same time.

    Shane Ross replied 17 years, 5 months ago 5 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Bill Dewald

    November 21, 2008 at 8:09 pm

    Yep, that’s a biggie. Can’t be done in FCP.

    Ok – this idea just came to me – bear with me, and lets see if it can work… (its more of a hack than a sound workflow)

    This will require a FCP system, and then an extra copy of FCP on a laptop.

    On the ingest machine, log the clip as its full duration. Before batch capturing, save the project and pass it along to the laptop.

    Now start the batch capture on the ingest machine. While the tape is playing, open the corresponding offline clip on the laptop in the viewer. Set the ins and outs for your subclips based on what you see as the tape ingests. Then create the (offline) subclip, and move on to the next.

    When the ingest is finished, pass the subclip project from the laptop to the ingest station. Recconnect the media to the subclips.

    Voila! Subclips created while the tape ingests. You could even use media manager to get rid of the non-subclipped footage.

    or, make a feature request to Apple. Whichever.

  • John Knapich

    November 21, 2008 at 8:20 pm

    Nice try Bill, I could see that working, but I guess I am just griping. Someone else mentioned xml files or such, but I just want it part of the program.

  • Shane Ross

    November 21, 2008 at 8:39 pm

    Here’s where you post stuff like this. So that Apple can read it and promptly ignore it and do what they want…

    https://www.apple.com/feedback/finalcutpro.html

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • John Knapich

    November 21, 2008 at 9:01 pm

    Thanks Shane, used your link to add my two cents.

  • Bob Flood

    November 21, 2008 at 11:04 pm

    Hi

    I actually find it faster to capture it all using capture now with no logging, then go back and start binning and subclipping. And part of the reason is that I am using a Sony M10U DV HDV Deck which has the Speedy response of a city bus, so I need to have the footage in the system just to be able to shuttle it around!

    (I know at least one weekly TV show that does it this way, with nary a problem)

    And for all of those nay sayers who tell you not to capture now becuz of TC breaks, my answer is: Dont plan to recap (unless you have to due to a catastrophic failure), and capture it all at a high enough resolution so you can just finish!

    btw cant you drop markers in while you capture?

    hope this helps

    “I like video because its so fast!”

    Bob Flood
    Greer & Associates, Inc.

  • John Knapich

    November 24, 2008 at 2:29 pm

    Thanks Bob, I actually do use the markers – I add a marker for each slate – so I can go back and log easier.

  • Randy Lee

    November 24, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    Capture now works great…. *if* you’re never going to have to go back and re-edit, or change anything. Finish a project, get it off your system, then a year from now the client calls and you have to go in and change things? No timecode to work with. Talk about fun. If you log and capture, you’ve got timecode and can re-link everything, no problems.

    One day Apple will listen…. I hope… Maybe a complete re-write with Snow Leopard? We can dream.

  • Shane Ross

    November 24, 2008 at 5:04 pm

    [Randy Lee] “Capture now works great…. *if* you’re never going to have to go back and re-edit, or change anything…No timecode to work with.”

    That is an incorrect statement. CAPTURE NOW captures timecode…absolutely. The only way you DON’T capture timecode is if you choose UNCONTROLLED DEVICE for deck control. Firewire, RS-422…if you control the deck, you have timecode. I capture full tapes this way often, and never had an issue with recapturing.

    The thing you have to watch out with CAPTURE NOW is PRE-ROLL. You must make sure that you have at least 5 seconds of video BEFORE you hit CAPTURE NOW. If not, then you will have big issues trying to recapture.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

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