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  • Non drop frame offline tapes….but drop frame masters. EDL conversions anyone?

    Posted by Mike J. on June 18, 2006 at 5:57 pm

    This appears to be happening a lot lately. Studios are shooting drop frame Dbeta footage but making DVCAM downconvertions as nondrop frame. The project gets edited…and then…the numbers don’t match the masters at online.

    I have a system of just converting by tc calculator one at a time or sometimes just caputuring handles of 4 seconds and slipping.

    Is there any program out there anywhere that can convert a non drop edl to drop or viceversa all at once?

    Thanks

    Mike J. replied 19 years, 10 months ago 4 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Shane Ross

    June 18, 2006 at 7:26 pm

    It doesn’t matter if your source tapes are non-drop or drop frame. Just make your sequence drop frame and you are good to go.

    The tapes don’t run at a different speed, just the way the TC numbers are treated is different.

    Shane

    Alokut Productions
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • Mark Raudonis

    June 19, 2006 at 1:22 am

    Shane,

    Actually, it does matter. I think what Mike is saying is that there’s a discrepancy between the original master (Drop frame) and the dub (non drop). If there’s a diferance here, then yes, your list will be out by seconds, and totally useless.

    My advice is to have a conversation with whomever is dubbing this stuff and tell them to GET IT RIGHT! You want identical code. If you don’t get that you shouldn’t pay for it!

    Now, if you’re aquiring on 24p and then translating to 29.97 DVCAM, then, yes, there will be a difference. You need to discuss with your produciton folks how you should handle this.

    Good luck. Communication is the key.

    Mark

  • Shane Ross

    June 19, 2006 at 2:53 am

    Ohhhh…I see. The timecode on the DVCAM dub is drop, while the original digibeta is non-drop. Sorry, I didn’t read that close enough. I am used to the question “my source tapes are non-drop but I need a drop frame master.”

    I got ahead of myself. Thanks for covering my behind.

    Shane

    Alokut Productions
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • Mike J.

    June 19, 2006 at 7:54 pm

    Yes, on the projects I’ve supervised…I got this right. Unfortunately, other’s don’t. A lot of these get inherieted from others…sometimes captured even…the producing company blindly bids….you know the rest.

    In the event of these…looking for a quicker solution than what I’m doing.

  • John Pale

    June 20, 2006 at 4:02 pm

    You should be able to modify the timecode of the source clips in their bins using the Modify Timecode command in FCP. All your sequences will update (the shots wont change, the TC numbers will be corrected though).

  • Mike J.

    June 21, 2006 at 4:54 am

    I do that already…

    But take 1900 media managed clips and that means that you have to change the timecode on 1900 clips in a bin.

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