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No FCP X announcement?
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[Walter Soyka] “Testing conducted by Apple in October 2013 using preproduction Mac Pro 12-core 2.7GHz units with 1TB flash storage and AMD FirePro D700 graphics, and shipping Mac Pro 12-core 3.06GHz units with 512GB SSD and ATI Radeon HD 5870 graphics. All systems configured with 64GB of RAM. Tested with prerelease OS X 10.9 and prerelease Final Cut Pro X. Color correction, render, and optical flow retiming tests conducted using a 3840x2160p29.97 ProRes 4444 project. Streaming tests conducted using a 10-minute project with 16 unique 3840x2160p23.98 ProRes 422 clips. Performance tests are conducted using specific computer systems and reflect the approximate performance of Mac Pro.”
“So a wee bit more expensive than 2999. Maybe 12999? Or would that still be a bit cheep? Maybe 15 and change?
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[Steve Connor] “[Justin Crowell] “Either way…I’ve always gone by the motto of leaving the system drive alone. Having read, write, and export drives in addition.”
Which is exactly how it should be done!
“Exactly. Thy just couldn’t get the specs without the flash memory. And, they are talking about a very expensive machine there. Its not for editing promos, so yes, 3/4s of a TB will do you little good.
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[Rich Rubasch] “I do like the new Mac Pro. Also having Mavericks able to run on older Macs (we have ’em) is a great addition. I have a workhorse of an old MacBookPro that I can’t upgrade to Mountain Lion.”
Kind of amazing. I have an MBP Pro that didn’t qualify for Lion, yet seems to be able to take Mavericks. Now, that is forward momentum…
Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill
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[Justin Crowell] “Either way…I’ve always gone by the motto of leaving the system drive alone. Having read, write, and export drives in addition.”
I am willing to reconsider.
In the olden days, it used to be that shouldn’t use your system drive for media because the OS or your app was also likely to attempt to use the system drive (leading to high read/write latency, fragmentation, or bus saturation), or just because you’d be constrained by the simple speed limitations of the single-spindle storage itself. That would cause dropped frames, and dropped frames totally messed with your deadlines when you were laying things off to tape.
With fast random-access non-volatile memory on the fastest bus on the system, these concerns no longer apply.
There may still be good logical or administrative reasons to keep media separate, but moving the media off the internal storage onto external storage will actually be a step backwards in terms of raw performance.
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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[Walter Soyka] “There may still be good logical or administrative reasons to keep media separate, but moving the media off the internal storage onto external storage will actually be a step backwards in terms of raw performance.”
Would this be true if you were comparing the single internal drive to an external raid? Would this change if the external raid had 16x PCIe access instead of Tbrd 2?
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Herb Sevush] “Would this be true if you were comparing the single internal drive to an external raid? Would this change if the external raid had 16x PCIe access instead of Tbrd 2?”
How fast is your RAID?
The Fusion IO ioFX [link] is 1.6TB, and that advertises a read bandwidth of 1.4 GB/s and a write bandwidth of 1.1 GB/s. Over PCIe 2.0 x4.
The Mac Pro mini-site quotes 1200 MB/s.
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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[Walter Soyka] “The Mac Pro mini-site quotes 1200 MB/s.”
Wow, that’s smokin’.
My raid gets around 900 MB/s. However 1.6 TB is about 10X too small for my needs, which of course would quadruple if I ever went to 4K. Still, that’s amazing.
OWC has PCIe SSD’s that max out at 880 MB/s, this is 50% faster. I Imagine boot times and program starts would be brisk, to say the least. Definitely fast enough for media, although I’m still old fashioned enough to want to keep media separate from OS for organizational simplicity.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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