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Next version of Adobe Production Studio coming to the Mac
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Grim is my middle name.
[Mylenium] “What could Adobe care what Apple does and what does Apple care what Adobe does? They are both monopolists and have a firm grip on their parts of the market”
This is part of what I’m saying, but it’s only ok if you want to work all Apple or all Adobe. If you want AE to be able to read a FCP timeline you need The Duck. Why? Because of –> [Mylenium] “What could Adobe care what Apple does and what does Apple care what Adobe does? They are both monopolists and have a firm grip on their parts of the market”
I’m sure Premiere will be great for some people but why not open up all the individual products to working with other applications outside of the Adobe group (same goes for Apple too).
On another note… you new it was coming. What happen to Adobe not taking about future products and releases. Now it seems they’re leaking like a cruiseship on an iceberg.
TonyTony
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About having both, a lot of my clients would insist on editing with one program or another. Premiere especially.
“Today I thought we would finish this commercial on this Discreet Edit System, it’ about 250K…” “actually do you have premiere?” “…”
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[TonyTony] “This is part of what I’m saying, but it’s only ok if you want to work all Apple or all Adobe. If you want AE to be able to read a FCP timeline you need The Duck. Why? Because of –> [Mylenium] “What could Adobe care what Apple does and what does Apple care what Adobe does? They are both monopolists and have a firm grip on their parts of the market”
I’m sure Premiere will be great for some people but why not open up all the individual products to working with other applications outside of the Adobe group (same goes for Apple too).”
Adobe surely had their reasons to go back, but by no means I’d see this as the eternal battle between two companies or a sign of desparatly trying to win users back. I agree that in an ideal world everything should work with everything, but we are not living in such a world and so for the time being we as users have to muddle thru. I think you are also forgetting that it took apple themselves a long time to get the integrated solutions and workflows (the notorious “roundtrip”) they are now able to provide. It is reasonable to assume that in time Adobe can do the same with their own products and even some “foreign” products like FCP.
[TonyTony] “On another note… you new it was coming. What happen to Adobe not taking about future products and releases. Now it seems they’re leaking like a cruiseship on an iceberg.”
Mmh, I don’t think so. Nobody knew anything, at best one could use a little logical deduction to assume that some day Adobe would go back to the Mac with its video products. You are also assuming too much – if I or other people knew about Adobe’s internal affairs, we certainly wouldn’t be allowed to talk about it before getting the greenlight from the powers. As for leaking – that could be seen either way. Again I don’t think it’s a sign of weakness. Perhaps it’s more of a trend Adobe picked up.
Personally I don’t mind an open information policy, be it just for planning my software updates, but if you look closely, you actually don’t know much just by picking up what little information is made available. Not even the public Betas for Soundbooth or Photoshop CS 3 do really provide any insights into what things may be coming and what Adobe plans to do with them. Those Betas are stripped of certain featueres or are in their very early state and quite frankly, I think it’s more a means of Adobe getting a feel for what users want and need rather than letting them in on their plans.
Mylenium
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[TonyTony] “What happen to Adobe not taking about future products and releases. Now it seems they’re leaking like a cruiseship on an iceberg.”
No, it is just a change in the “corporate mood” and culture over at Adobe. With the Macromedia purchase came a management team that had a long history of working through the Macromedia Labs site to have open developmental programs going that users could participate in and thereby help define and shape the character of future releases. Many of these former Macromedia people are now in key executive positions at Adobe and brought this mindset to the new Adobe Labs program. It started with Lightroom and now includes Soundbooth and other tools now open to market feedback and input. Even the new Photoshop is now running in a developmental cycle that is a part of the Adobe Labs project.
It is a change in corporate focus and I, for one, like it. It seems a lot more customer-centric than programs wherein a handful of people beta test a product — and often miss many things due to such a small sampling of users being involved. I think great things are going to come out of Adobe Labs and they are free to “prenounce” all they want, just as long as they keep things like Adobe Labs cooking.
Best regards,
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Tim,
You should join the Premiere Pro forum as well 🙂 I often get tired of repeating the success of Premiere Pro alone!– Aanarav
Aanarav Sareen
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Tim and Anarev, you certainly sound like Adobe’s marketing machine for Premiere (when I probaly sound the same for AE). ;O)
Mylenium
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[Mylenium] “Tim and Anarev, you certainly sound like Adobe’s marketing machine for Premiere (when I probaly sound the same for AE). ;O)”
Heh! I wish! Premiere is a great product, but often criticized too easily. Anyway, let’s not hijack this thread 🙂
– Aanarav
Aanarav Sareen
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[Ron Lindeboom] “”prenounce””
I like that. Prenounce. 😉I too like the more open attitude toward letting users in on what is coming up in the new prenounced products. Like Mylenium said it helps me plan me purchases. Now if we could just get a look at what AE has in store and what is going to happen to Shake/Motion and FCP Studio I could decide if I should get off AE and start on what ever Apple calls their “possibly” new Mograph/Vfx software.
TonyTony
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[TonyTony] “Now if we could just get a look at what AE has in store”
I can do a bit of prenouncement on this one, myself: more, better and faster.
Honest, I wouldn’t lie. :o)
Ron Lindeboom
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I agree, Premeire is always critisiced by editors I know saying that FInal Cut Pro and Avid Express Pro are more “Professional” then Adobe Premeire Pro as it’s seen as “Hobby Editing”. This is silly as all three applications are fine but in my personal opinion having worked with all three I choose Adobe Premeire Pro. As it’s fast, great features and intergration and I do not see anything Amateur about it. As long as you know about rhythm and pacing, that is what editing is about not about the interface which they seem to be referring to when they make that comment.
I would like to see better intergration with all the Adobe products and Macromedia, Serious Magic Ultra as well. So hoepfuly the next release will be interesting on the PC and that Adobe do not put all the energy into making the Apple versions better with more features then on the PC.
Thanks,
Leo
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