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NEXT debate: Hardware… Should we all move to PC running Linux or W7???
Posted by Michel Gallone on June 24, 2011 at 4:10 pmI don’t see much posts about hardware.
But to me the issue is:
Should we move to a powerful HP, Dell, Boxxtech or even custom PCs running Linux and Windows 7?This is relevant because I have the feeling Apple’s next move is to remove Pro functions in upcoming OS X releases.
At some points our beautiful 12 core MacPros will become totally obsolete and unusable… I think this will happen sooner than expected.We can see it in Apple’s move not to support CUDA for example.
Currently, people running Premiere and After Effects on W7 beneficiate from a much higher computing speed.: This is a reality.
But then it really means big $$$ for all of us. Switching from brand new 12 cores MAcs to 12 Cores PCs will involve so much money that only the healthiest of the video and audio professionals will do it right now.
I certainly cannot imagine this kind of investment for my small business structure.What are your opinions….
Michel Gallone
Sowatt Music sàrl
Music Post and Shooting
https://sowattmusic.comAdam Claude jones replied 14 years, 10 months ago 11 Members · 16 Replies -
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Michael Hancock
June 24, 2011 at 4:39 pmYour 12-core Macs aren’t going to quit working. When they’re old and you need up upgrade your hardware, look at where things are. If Apple doesn’t have a suitable replacement or you don’t like where they’re going, buy a PC.
The parts are the same – the OS is the difference. Install Windows on your Mac and see if your software will run (if you have Windows versions). Otherwise, don’t sweat it. Or sell me your 12-cores for a couple hundred bucks. I’ll buy the lot of them. 🙂
Michael
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Chris Kenny
June 24, 2011 at 4:51 pm[Michel Gallone] “This is relevant because I have the feeling Apple’s next move is to remove Pro functions in upcoming OS X releases.”
This whole “Apple doesn’t care about pros” narrative, which some people seem to be buying into as incontrovertible fact, is based wholly on data points that have entirely plausible alternative explanations. The really ironic thing here is that a year ago, the primary support being offered for this narrative was that Apple hadn’t rewritten Final Cut Pro as a 64-bit Cocoa app yet, but of course we now know that Apple was doing precisely that. Yet somehow, despite the fact that the very existence of FCP X undermined the chief reason people had come to believe Apple didn’t care about pros in the first place, many of those people have gone on to view the entire announcement and rollout through that same lens.
Here’s the actual reality:
Apple needed to rewrite Final Cut Pro. Pretty much everyone recognized this. People spent a couple of years freaking out because they didn’t have realistic expectations with respect to how long a rewrite would take.
Apple finished the rewrite, just above on the schedule I had guessed (~2x the length of a normal release cycle, counting from FCS2 since FCS3 wasn’t that big an update). Now a bunch of people are freaking out because they didn’t have realistic expectations with respect to how plausible it was that a 1.0 release of a new app would be an immediate drop-in replacement for a 12 year-old app.
We now know from what Apple has told Philip Hodgetts and David Pogue on the record that Apple is not unaware of what they left out of the first release of FCP X and is working to fill in the more important gaps.
The entire case in favor of the “Apple doesn’t care about pros” narrative, based on the latest available information, basically boils down to “Apple is acting like Apple”. Seriously. Every complaint about FCP X — that it shipped before having the full feature set everyone wanted, that Apple hasn’t presented a roadmap, that it sacrifices compatibility in favor of innovation — is just how Apple works and has worked for at least the entire Steve Jobs era. Examples of all of these abound, including with respect to products Apple manifestly does care about, a lot. There is simply no need to invoke an additional “And Apple doesn’t care about pros anymore” explanation for any of Apple’s behavior with respect to FCP X.
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John Chay
June 24, 2011 at 5:05 pmI think the biggest thing that has people upset is pulling CS3 all together and forcing everyone into FCPX. If they would have just kept CS3 and allowed people to gradually transition into FCPX when it was ready for Professional Post work then you wouldn’t see the outrage.
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Jason Myres
June 24, 2011 at 5:12 pmChris, Definitely need to buy you a beer some day.
Great post.
JM
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Chris Kenny
June 24, 2011 at 5:13 pm[John Chay] “I think the biggest thing that has people upset is pulling CS3 all together and forcing everyone into FCPX. If they would have just kept CS3 and allowed people to gradually transition into FCPX when it was ready for Professional Post work then you wouldn’t see the outrage.”
I kind of doubt you wouldn’t see the outrage, since as I noted the “Apple doesn’t care about pros” fear-mongering had basically a two year head-start on Apple even announcing FCP X, and it really kicked into high gear after the SuperMeet, well before anyone knew about Apple’s plans for FCS3.
In any event, Apple should have left FCS3 on sale, I think, but in practice it probably won’t be that hard for people to get copies.
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Michel Gallone
June 24, 2011 at 5:17 pmRegarding Mac Pros
No they are not going to stop working
But if the next OS x does not support FCP6 or 7 : to that means they stopped working!!!Boot Camp using Mac Pros is not a pro solution: Drivers are not well written and it will never behave like a Z800 or any Pro Grade PC rinnig W7 or linux…
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Peter Blumenstock
June 24, 2011 at 5:19 pmI agree with you on most points, and let’s leave the whole drama of what this app is, what it could have been, what it might be one day outside. What baffles me is that there is a pretty large group of users who fed Apple money and dedication for years – angry, disillusioned, fearful, worried about their businesses and livelihoods. Wether justified or not, that’s how people obviously feel.
And all that Apple can come up with is… silence. The only semi-official statement is via a FCP instructor quoting from an email exchange he had with some of their developers. It may be the Apple way of doing things but I seriously cannot see any other company in the world that would behave that way or could get away with this. That’s pretty poor, on a human level. -
Ben Scott
June 24, 2011 at 5:33 pmshut up and figure out what openCL and other core mac OSX technologies bring to the table
this is painful having to watch people with little knowledge of how the OS works comment on what is missing, especially when they keep claiming they are such professionals.
if you knew your stuff you wouldnt be mentioning CUDA
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Dan Stewart
June 24, 2011 at 5:37 pmThere was suspicion because of Apple’s shady behaviour. It kicked into high gear after the supermeet because some people here aren’t dumb.
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Chris Kenny
June 24, 2011 at 5:49 pm[Dan Stewart] “There was suspicion because of Apple’s shady behaviour.”
Could you explain what that means, specifically?
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