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  • Newbie struggling

    Posted by Roger Burton on May 24, 2007 at 6:23 am

    Hi chaps … I’ve completed several tutorials and they were excellent … and I’ve been working my way through the quickstart manual … but when I start to work on a bit of my own modelling (with lighting etc) I really start to struggle and get frustrated. I don’t seem to be able to get my head around the interface and working method. I’m used to working in After Effects and getting almost immediate feedback of, say, transfer modes or lighting, – but with C4D the constant need to render the scene to get some accurate indication of the effect is really trying my patience. Don’t get me wrong, I totally understand just how big this programme is and it can’t really be compared to AE but for a programme that, I’ve heard, has the easiest learning curve for a 3d app. I’m having a hard time (I know I’m 56 but I’m a great believer in “you’re never too old to learn”) . Any suggestions gratefully received. I don’t mind spending out a little for some good training materials (but only a little … the software cost has cleaned me out) Best Roger

    Aaron Aphasia replied 18 years, 11 months ago 5 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Nolan Scott

    May 24, 2007 at 8:12 am

    Please have a look at C4D Cafe and 3DKiwi

  • Roger Burton

    May 24, 2007 at 1:24 pm

    Thanks Nolan … yes I found all that stuff and what an amazing resource it seems I should be able to find a tutorial for almost anything i want to make … don’t get me wrong I am astounded at the amount of time and effort these guys put in to help idiots like me but they are often too ‘prescriptive’ – ie “…now go to material\colour and put in these figures…” etc etc. I don’t learn a lot from this sort of tutorial except how to make a chess pawn, or whatever. I’m beginning to sound like an ungratefull swine – please believe me I’m not – and, of course, how can someone write a tutorial without having an objective ie ‘make a chess pawn’ but there’s often no explanation as to why to “wind up the reflection to 120” I’m just struggling. Maybe I should shell out the

  • Ronaldo Montalvo

    May 24, 2007 at 5:40 pm

    hey roger,

    i can relate. don’t give up. i’m an old guy too, came to c4d by way of paintbox, compositing with multiple 1′ machines and matte reels, ADO’s, photoshop, then after effects, etc., etc.

    my personal advice with c4d is don’t try to learn it all. decide what you really want/need to do with it and focus there, do some simple paying jobs where you can work it into your usual methods and use it as a supplement to your afx skills. i don’t say this with pride but, i’ve been using it for about 4 years (still a newbie) and i seldom model anything, never do character rigging, barely use expressions or exotic long rendering liting/material setups. i admire these skills and these things are all on the “learn-it” list but i don’t need them currently and have accepted i might not get to them this week. most valuable to me are things like: work on moving the cameras smoothly and how to use spline paths with cam’s, get basic liting skills together, figure out how to use live video in your scenes, and use illustrator shapes/type as elements along with the c4d primitives. get comfy with the rendering module and it’s possibilities for export to afx.

    most importantly, just keep doing what you’re doing, focus on tut’s that address what you really want to do. also, just play and experiment and do variations on tutorial theme or methods.. it’s one of the most powerful and amazing tools you’ll get to work/play with. give it time and, oh yeah, take your vitamins and gingko biloba. good luck.

  • Roger Burton

    May 24, 2007 at 8:07 pm

    Ronaldo – thank you – I think I was beginning to get stuck with the enormity of the programme but of course you are so right …. when I remember back to my early days of AE and how daunting I found it I really just pretended it was Photoshop that moved a bit and slowly it all came together. I guess I’m also envious of all of the incredible stuff I see some of the kids knocking out and want to be as proficient over night. Your encouragement has been really helpful. I’ve been working my way through a few more tutes this afternoon … a little more of the foundations under my belt ! I’ll stop sulking and get on with it. Regards Roger

  • Alejandro Torres

    May 24, 2007 at 11:52 pm

    Hi Roger,

    I would recommend you the Cinema 4d tutorials that are available at http://www.lynda.com, they give you a complete panorama of the program in a very straightforward, complete and easy to follow way. I found them the best resource for learning C4D as this was also my first 3d app (I still work with AE but I now love C4D), although I am 17 I think you can overcome your problems and hopefully Lynda’s tutorials will help you out.

    Regards

    Alejandro

  • Roger Burton

    May 25, 2007 at 5:23 am

    Thanks for that capsat …. I will certainly check those I out. Regards Roger

  • Aaron Aphasia

    June 5, 2007 at 7:27 pm

    Hey man…36 here and I’m still learning this program. Day in day out but I LOVE C4d and AE! Hang in there it will all “click” in short time. Aaron

    Graphics Designer
    Broadcast Specialist

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