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  • Craig Seeman

    October 19, 2012 at 2:51 am

    Clearly you’ve never used a MBP Retina.
    There are certainly good PC Laptops but nothing like Retina. Not when you consider the built in monitor and the Thunderbolt to PCIe chassis expansion (available on all Macs ‘cept what’s left of the MacPro).

    This is why there was no MacPro this year. It’ll have Thunderbolt next year and you’ll be able to move nearly any device to any Mac with it’s a RAID or a Decklink Quad.

  • Herb Sevush

    October 19, 2012 at 2:22 pm

    [Joseph Owens] “Anyway, I’m in despair watching the Yankees go down… “

    down, down, waayyyy down, this is the worst loss since dropping 4 in a row to the sox.

    [Joseph Owens] ” Apple will just decide for us we don’t need that anymore. Especially all those $6-$7K GPU expanders a lot of us now own in the vain attempt to row upstream from the waterfalls.”

    This is where the argument that Apple had to wait for Xeon Thunderbolts breaks down. How about a USB3 capable, better GFX card available, more PCI slot loaded SandyBridge upgrade? I would have bought the best version available with a smile, instead of having to buy the cheapest 2010 version with a scowl. Why is that so far beneath contempt for Apple to come out with while waiting for the next big thing?

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
    —————————
    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Marcus Moore

    October 19, 2012 at 2:52 pm

    If Criag is right, and Apple sees the average lifetime on a tower being 5-6 years in a post house- then maybe they are keen to have as few people possible motivated to buy in now, just (relatively speaking) before they release their new product in this space.

    Maybe the math works out better that they figure that fewer people will jump ship to a PC platform vs those who will wait it out now that we know something is coming. Who knows.

    But outside of FCPX improvements themselves, there’s little I’m more keen on seeing than what Apple is going to bring to the table here. Maybe Apple can still surprise us, or maybe not and it will be a misstep. I see about 50/50 odds at this point.

    Regardless, whatever it is, coupled with wherever FCPX is at when it’s released, will be the definitive word on where Apple’s philosophies lay in Video Production. Those who are waiting, hopefully or skeptically, can see the full picture and make a decision (if they haven’t already).

    It will be interesting one way or the other.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 19, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    Nano tubes.

    Once the nano tubes have arrived, the Xeons will follow.

    If you build it, it will sizzle core.

    https://www.macrumors.com/2012/10/09/apples-rumored-carbon-fiber-part-shipments-said-to-be-result-of-multi-year-partnership/

    https://www.macrumors.com/2012/09/26/apple-sourcing-carbon-fiber-components-for-upcoming-product/

    Oh, and Thunderbolt.

    Unless Apple is planning on building a line of bicycles? iBike? Mountain Bike Pro?

    Jeremy

  • Craig Seeman

    October 19, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “This is where the argument that Apple had to wait for Xeon Thunderbolts breaks down. How about a USB3 capable, better GFX card available, more PCI slot loaded SandyBridge upgrade? I would have bought the best version available with a smile, instead of having to buy the cheapest 2010 version with a scowl. “

    Because Apple wants you to buy Thunderbolt MacBox when they release and not a PCIe slotted box you’re going to keep using for 5 years.

  • Craig Seeman

    October 19, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    Along these lines, what we may see is the “portable” desktop.

    Obviously those of us who want a desktop find a laptop, for various reasons, less than ideal for some work.
    Such a portable desktop/workstation would be the sizzle core beast with Xeons and appropriate GPU but most other things on Thunderbolt. Bring to location, hook to monitor and Thunderbolt devices and your portable workstation is ready to go.

    The tower is gone but the power is there and it’s portable.

  • Clint Wardlow

    October 19, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    [Craig Seeman] “Because Apple wants you to buy Thunderbolt MacBox when they release and not a PCIe slotted box you’re going to keep using for 5 years.”

    And I think this is a mistake on Apple’s part. One of the big reasons I (and I think a lot of others) bought Macs was the perception –true or not– that a Mac machine outlasted a PC. If Apple suddenly forces us to purchase big iron every 2 to 3 years to keep working, the impetus to purchase a Mac loses ground. At that point why not go with PC which gives you more power for less money if you have to buy new machines every couple of years anyway?

  • Marcus Moore

    October 19, 2012 at 4:31 pm

    I don’t think Graig is implying that Apple wants the shorten the useable life of the MacPro (or whatever it’s replacement will be called). Only that they might be motivated to have people start their next 5 years with the NEW 2013 product, rather than having a large chunk of the MacPro user base buy now on a CPU upgrade with the existing form factor and technologies.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 19, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    [Clint Wardlow] “At that point why not go with PC which gives you more power for less money if you have to buy new machines every couple of years anyway?”

    Is it really more power for less money?

    What PCs offer is iMac speed (quad core i7) in a desktop form factor.

    When you start building “big iron” from the likes of HP with enterprise Xeons, the prices are very similar.

    Jeremy

  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 19, 2012 at 4:36 pm

    [Craig Seeman] “The tower is gone but the power is there and it’s portable.

    Bring it!

    As long as I can extend it to a machine room like Mr Rubasch says, I’m good.

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