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  • New to Vegas Pro 11 – When I render I get “An Error occurred…no access to file/folder and that there is enough free space.”

    Posted by Nelson Helu on December 13, 2011 at 11:17 pm

    Hi

    I am new to this forum and new to Vegas Pro 11. I did some analog editing 16 years ago. Brand new to linear editing.

    I just finished editing a multi-camera shoot (2 cameras) and I am excited. I want to make the hour and 25 minute video into a DVD and post it on YouTube (or some such).

    I figure I should render this in the best quality and then compress it. So I picked the .AVI format and picked the AVI format that my Vegas says “Match Project Settings – HD 1080-60i YUV”. To be honest, I don’t really know what that means, but I expect that will give me the best HD 1080p video I can get. (Video source is from an Cannon 1080 HD Camcorder recorded in full 1080 HD.)

    Click render and … 4 hours later I see a box that says “An error occurred writing the file. Make sure you have write access to the file/folder and there is enough free space.”

    So I never got the project fully rendered. I got 24 minutes of “video” that is choppy and unusable.

    Questions:
    1) If I have an .AVI file that is 24 minutes long in my folder, that would prove I have access to the file/folder? right. So, then access to the file/folder is not the issue here.

    2) Why is that 24 minute AVI file so freaking BIG, 178GB?! The raw footage was videoed in 1080p HD (total of 5 hours) It was less than 50GB in size. I only want 85 minutes of it with just cuts from one camera to the next. Nothing fancy.

    3) If I want to do this right, what do I have to do? Get a separate hard drive to render projects? If so, how big should I get it? I want to do projects like this many times.

    4) If 178GB (for only 24 minutes) is right, then in the end how big is my file going to be when I want to put the 85 minutes of video on a DVD? I figure we get great HD movies on a DVD, why can’t I fit mine on a DVD?

    5) For what I want to accomplish am I going about this the right way? Rendering wise.

    I will only be able to view this thread once a day. So can’t respond quickly.

    Oleg Petrakovsky replied 13 years, 8 months ago 6 Members · 10 Replies
  • 10 Replies
  • John Rofrano

    December 14, 2011 at 12:45 am

    Your problem is that you’re rending to Sony YUV. There is no need to use this format. There is also no need to render and then compress. Just render from Vegas in your final delivery format.

    If your target is DVD then your format should be Main Concept MPEG2 using one of the DVD templates. If you want to post it on YouTube I would not render for DVD. I would render to AVC using Sony AVC with one of the “Internet” templates. I like the Internet HD 720-30p template for YouTube.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Nelson Helu

    December 14, 2011 at 5:22 am

    Hi John

    Thanks for responding. If I render to “Main Concept MPEG2″ that will work with the DVD., great, but will it be full HD quality? I want to preserve HD quality so it can be viewed on a 55” TV and look great.

    For YouTube, I’ll try “Sony AVC”. Thanks.

    Now… Will I always have to come back to this “project” to render this edited video every time I want to create a new venue for the video? Or can I just create one kind of file and convert that file?

    One of the things I want to do is give the person I did the video for a copy of the finished video so he can do whatever he want to do with the video – convert it, compress it, extract the audio…

    Thanks
    Nelson

  • Jon Muro

    December 14, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    Hi Nelson,
    I’m new to the group here but I’ll give you my 2 cents.
    You may know all this already but I’ll post what I know.

    You should be editing to a seperate HD then your system drive(sure you are)

    .avi files are very large and can be much bigger than your original files.

    you do not need to render to .avi.. only then to render again to mpeg 2
    just render your project to mpeg 2 from your timeline
    you can also render it to mp4 for youtube

    I have a 1TB drive with many projects on it but drive space is cheap today so 2TB might be the way to go if it’s in your budget.

    hope this helps

  • James Kumorek

    December 14, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    If you create a DVD movie (which is what you’re implying), it will not be HD quality — because DVDs are not HD. You’d need to create a Blu-Ray movie disc for HD quality.

    If you really aren’t trying to create a DVD movie disc, but are merely using a DVD disc as a data disc to deliver an HD video file, then you can still use Main Concept AVC, and pick one of the HD templates (although I’d increase the max and average data rates a bit to get better quality); or, you could render to WMV and use one of the HD templates. Although that doesn’t go over well with Mac users, if that’s who you’re delivering to.

  • Harry Maathuis

    December 14, 2011 at 1:13 pm

    Btw John,

    Where are the Sony AVC/MVC Internet Templates in Vegas Pro 11?

    Harry Maathuis

  • John Rofrano

    December 14, 2011 at 1:44 pm

    [Nelson Helu] “If I render to “Main Concept MPEG2″ that will work with the DVD., great, but will it be full HD quality? I want to preserve HD quality so it can be viewed on a 55″ TV and look great.”

    As James pointed out, DVD’s are not HD. So the question is, Do you want them to be able to play it with a set-top DVD player? if yes, then you can’t give them HD. If you want to give them an HD disc, you need to give them a Blu-ray disc and they will need a Blu-ray player to play it.

    [Nelson Helu] “Now… Will I always have to come back to this “project” to render this edited video every time I want to create a new venue for the video? Or can I just create one kind of file and convert that file? “

    If you want to render a master copy and make more from that, I would render back to the camera’s original format. I shoot HDV and so I save all of my masters as HDV. Some people like to use Sony MXF. If you have CineForm, that’s a great format to master to as well (but you have to buy it).

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • John Rofrano

    December 14, 2011 at 1:46 pm

    [Harry Maathuis] “Where are the Sony AVC/MVC Internet Templates in Vegas Pro 11?”

    You know I don’t have Vegas Pro 11 handy right now to look (I still have Vegas Pro 10 on my MacBook Pro) but when you open Sony AVC you should see a bunch of templates that start with “Internet…” in the name.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Harry Maathuis

    December 14, 2011 at 2:09 pm

    That’s what I thought John, but only the Memory Stick, AVCHD and Blu-ray templates are there.

  • John Rofrano

    December 18, 2011 at 4:03 pm

    Yea, they seemed to have removed the Internet templates from Sony AVC in Vegas Pro 11 and created them under MainConcept AVC. I guess they want up to use MainConcept for internet video now.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Oleg Petrakovsky

    September 4, 2012 at 2:39 am

    Hi John, I have a similar error upon rendering, however in my case I have 1080/60p video shot with my Panasonic HDC-HS700 camcorder. I’ve followed the following video step by step:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKEP70GGjjA
    I created the Custom rendering template in Vegas according to the video, i.e modified the Blu-Ray 1920×1080 60i template to give me progressive scans, with 59.94 fps, just like instructed in the video (except I kept the 16 mbps). Here are the details: Video: 59.940 fps, 1920×1080 Progressive, YUV, 16 Mbps
    Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.000, Profile = High, Entropy Coding = CABAC, Field Order = (none) Progressive Scan; Render with CPU only (tried modifying to automatic, does not make a difference — still gives error, read below).
    And I have the AVCHD folder, created by multiAVCHD, which contains my BDMV folder, so I thought I was ready to go.
    But, burning a high-def video on a DVD with ImgBurn, as instructed in the Youtube video above, did NOT give me a disk I can play with my BD player (Panny DMP-BD80, see manual here if needed https://service.us.panasonic.com/OPERMANPDF/DMPBD60-MUL.PDF)
    Then I thought, ok, why not — instead of muxing with TSMuxer, then rendering the mt2s file into an AVCHD file with multiAVCHD, then burning with ImgBurn — why not just use Vegas for this rendering? I already have the 60p template and my videos are 1080/60p.
    Well, it doesn’t work: I get an Error, which reads precisely as follows: “An error occurred while creating the media file xxxxx.mp4. An error occurred while writing the file. Make sure you have write access to the file/folder and that there is enough free space.” Now, trying to interpret this error literally did not resolve the problem, i.e. I have admin privileges on my comp, the entire path / folder do have write privileges and there are gigs and gigs of space on my HD. I also made sure that my project properties match the video: 1920×1080, progressive field order, 59.940 fps (Double NTSC), 8-bit pixel format.
    Also very important: if I simply choose the Vegas’s native Blu-ray 1920×1080-60i, 16 Mbps video stream template, i.e. the one with Video: 29.970 fps, 1920×1080 Upper field first, YUV, 16 Mbps
    Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.000, then everything is fine and starts rendering without errors! So what is going on, why can’t I render using the 60p template, I have the 60p videos!
    Thanks in advance for any advice.
    Oleg

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