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new scopes for HD
Posted by Bob Zelin on March 12, 2008 at 11:10 pmHi –
I can’t believe I am beating out a Cow press release.
I just read that Tektronix is releasing the new WVR-5000 HD scope. It’s $6750, and I think the street price is going to be $5100, making this the CHEAPEST HD/SD scope on the market (cheaper than Leader or Harris/Videotek).Amazing times.
bob Zelin
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Walter Biscardi
March 12, 2008 at 11:49 pm[Bob Zelin] “making this the CHEAPEST HD/SD scope on the market (cheaper than Leader or Harris/Videotek).”
About darn time. That’s something we could afford and install in the rack for all the systems to share.
Still don’t understand why someone can’t make a $2,500 or cheaper scope by simply making the unit itself in a small rack mount box the size of a K3 box that you connect into any computer display of your choice.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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Bob Zelin
March 13, 2008 at 1:29 amGee, maybe this could be the product AJA releases at NAB2009 !
bob Zelin
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Walter Biscardi
March 13, 2008 at 1:32 am[Bob Zelin] “Gee, maybe this could be the product AJA releases at NAB2009 !”
I already tried last year. Not something AJA wanted to get in to. I can understand that. Black Burst is easy, but test signal stuff, who wants to get into that?
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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Gary Adcock
March 13, 2008 at 4:15 pm[Bob Zelin] “Amazing times.”
yeah
on the other side Leader is now shipping the 5800 series scopes that analyses 2 Dual link streams or 4 single links HDSDI streams against each other.
Now for some quantitative comparisons of Compressed vs. Uncompressed….
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Russell Lasson
March 13, 2008 at 10:09 pmWhat’s the name of the software scopes that you run on a windows box with SDI in. I can’t remember it?
Anyone have experience with it?
-Russ
Russell Lasson
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Russell Lasson
March 13, 2008 at 10:19 pmAfter a little searching I found it again.
Anyone tried this with a AJA card?
-Russ
Russell Lasson
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Russell Lasson
March 14, 2008 at 12:24 amSo after looking more, I found Bob’s article on it. Also this quote:
SO, here is the cheap solution. Get a HP xw4400 Win XP computer (about $1000) stick in a Blackmagic Decklink HD card ($995), and get the Hamlet VidScope software, which will use the Blackmagic (or AJA) card as it’s hardware, and display a BEAUTIFUL SD or HD display for you – all windows (vector, waveform, picture, audio) can be instantly resized.
Anyone else want to comment on it?
-Russ
Russell Lasson
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Bob Zelin
March 14, 2008 at 2:20 amthis is my comment (because I can’t shut up) –
To this day, I have not found ONE PERSON that is willing to dedicate an XP PC, a Xena card or BMD card, and this software to make a scope. There are two kinds of users – those that want to spend zero money (how come I can’t use the software scopes in FCP) – and those that understand the need for a real dedicated scope, and have no issue paying $7000 (and now possible $5000) for a scope. I LOVE the Hamlet Vidscope, but I have not had even ONE client dive in to do it.Bob Zelin
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Russell Lasson
March 14, 2008 at 2:26 amWell I might be the first:)
If I only needed 422 HDSDI, then I probably would spend the extra money, but with my needs quickly adapting to 444, the Videoscope-vx444 looks mightly attractive and under $5K too.
I’ll let you know when I finally pull the trigger.
-Russ
Russell Lasson
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Walter Biscardi
March 14, 2008 at 12:12 pm[Bob Zelin] “I LOVE the Hamlet Vidscope, but I have not had even ONE client dive in to do it.”
The only thing I”ll add here is we tested a Hamlet scope a few years ago against a Tektronix scope and it was horrible. Image was not sharp and we really could not read the levels nearly as easily as we would on the Tektronix. Of course at that time it was $7,500 vs. $14,000 for two scopes, but we were not impressed.
Again, that was a few years ago so they may have improved their quality since then. I will say that Color’s scopes are dead-on accurate to a Tektronix WFM-700 scope as we tested that when I first purchased Final Touch HD.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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